The Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research (IDMR) is a cult. Christianity accepts the Word of God which teaches that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and the only man in whom God has appeared incarnate. Religions denying this doctrine are classified as cults.
The IDMR believes Jesus is one of many incarnations of God in man. They deny Jesus was resurrected from the dead in a body, but in spirit, only. Jesus proved he arose from the grave in a body as he told the apostles to touch the prints of the nails in his hands.
Jesus arose from death in the same body placed in the tomb, but it was changed at resurrection into a glorified body which was immortal with no limitations regarding time and eternity. When Jesus arose from the dead, he arose in a new immortal body of flesh and bones. Of course, no person knows the exact atomic structure of the new immortal body, except Christ.
Jesus is presently in heaven in his glorified body and God abides in Jesus, eternally. Jesus is the Temple of God forever. Jesus stated, “Destroy this Temple, and in three days, I will raise it again”. He was referring to his body prior his crucifixion and death.
There have been many false prophets and gurus claiming to be God’s only channel to mankind, and claim to have been personally appointed by God. Henry C. Kinley is one of many false prophets making this claim. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, God incarnate.
All other men are tainted with sin. Man produces the blood for his offspring. The blood of Christ was generated by God and was untainted by sin. All other men have been born of man’s seed and born in sin. The IDMR cult denies that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God and the only incarnation of God in man.
The IDMR fails the crucial test of a legitimate Christian Church. They fail in many areas, but the denial of Jesus as the only incarnation of God in the flesh is the most crucial test.
Henry C. Kinley, the originator of IDMR is dead and in hell. At one time, Kinley was a preacher in the Church of God. He became disenchanted with Christian life and wanted more than was present in his life. He was not allowing Christ to live through his life, or he would have experienced the joy and peace of God’s love.
Kinley searched for a more fulfilling experience, because the promises of God were not good enough for him. This lack of faith proves he was not saved and did not have the indwelling of the Holy Ghost. Satan appeared to Kinley as an angel of light and convinced Kinley that he was the only channel of God to mankind. This is a normal result when one is dissatisfied with their life because they do not have the spirit of Christ dwelling in them.
Satan uses this void and easily fools a person who is devoid of faith in Christ. “Resist the devil and he will flee from you”, but seek some glorious feeling and Satan will find a substitute to make you feel important and feel good. It was obvious Kinley was more open to the feel-good approach from Satan rather than faith in the promises of God. Once Satan possesses a person, he blinds them to the truths of the Bible.
Suddenly, during his metaphysical studies, Kinley was blindsided by a vision. Kinley claims he was ushered into the third heaven, shown a map of the universe, and shown how the universe was structured. Maybe so or maybe not, but Satan and his spirits are aware of the layout of the universe.
Satan was the highest archangel in heaven and had privy to the entire universe. Angels oversee the works of the universe under the direction of God. They are his ministering spirits.
Henry C. Kinley said he met face-to-face with God, and God had a face like ours. Kinley actually met Satan face-to-face. Satan appears in almost any form he desires. Kinley declared that God incarnated himself into Kinley’s flesh, in the same manner as he incarnated himself in Jesus and others throughout history. We know God incarnated himself only one time and that was through his “only” begotten Son, Jesus. Henry C. Kinley was taken over (possessed) by Satan.
Satan possessed Kinley in the same manner he possesses others. Kinley said God would be incarnate in Kinley on the earth, and Kinley would have the only truth available for mankind. Sound familiar?
He not only stated he was God incarnate, but was also a prophet, and an apostle. Gee, he became everything all wrapped in one!
Muhammad claimed he talked with the angel, Gabriel. Muhammad declared he was a prophet and greater than the prophet, Jesus. Muhammad’s visions, received from Satan, became the writings of the Qur’an (Koran). Allah, the god of Islam, is actually Satan and the old pagan god, Baal.
The same happened with Joseph Smith of the Mormons (Latter Day Saints). He claims an angel, Moroni, gave him golden plates with updated information for the latter days. Joseph Smith claims to have met with John the Baptist and other Old Testament characters. Joseph Smith claimed to be the prophet for the latter days and a greater prophet than Jesus.
Mormons claim the “Book of Mormon” is a greater and more complete book than the Bible. No person saw the golden plates except Joseph Smith. The plates were suddenly taken back to heaven by the angel, Moroni. Under vigorous questioning, all who originally claimed to have seen the plates, eventually admitted they saw the plates only in a vision.
Charles Taze Russell, founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, claimed he, alone, had the sole authority to interpret scriptures.
Mary Eddy Baker of the Christian Science cult makes the same claim. She was their prophet, and she, only, had the ability to interpret scriptures correctly for them.
Buddha, a self proclaimed guru, became the major spokesman for the false cult of reincarnation and other mystic Eastern beliefs. Satan has been busy in the Eastern world. They have many gurus laying claim for the title of “chief guru” of reincarnation.
Herbert W. Armstrong was the author of the cult of the United Churches of God (many various branches). He claims he was Elijah reincarnated, a prophet, an apostle, and the only valid interpreter of scripture for the latter days.
The woods are full of false prophets who are blinded by Satan. Satan takes possession of their mind, and they become false prophets using God vainly. It is no wonder, Jesus said, “Many will come in my name, but believe them not”.
There are branches of the Pentecostals who state that a person is not saved unless he babbles, has been dunked in the creek, and has hands laid on him by little apostles.
We now understand why Paul wrote, “when perfection comes (all the books of the New Testament are complete), then all knowledge, prophecy, and tongues will cease.
Since the written Word of God was complete, there would be no more “knowledge” added to the Bible and no more “prophecy” added to the Bible.
This passage was placed in the Bible by the Holy Ghost, because he knew false cults would spring up from Satan claiming additional knowledge and prophecy.
There are many blinded by Satan, and will remain blinded until they cry out to Christ in forgiveness for their refusal to accept him as the only way to salvation.
Father Time
August 31, 2007 at 2:10 pm |
“Charles Taze Russell, founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, claimed he, alone, had the sole authority to interpret scriptures.”
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Really? Where is this documented in his writings?
RR
August 31, 2007 at 3:12 pm |
“Charles Taze Russell, founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, claimed he, alone, had the sole authority to interpret scriptures.”
I deny that Charles Taze Russell was the founder of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. He did not believe in such an organization ruled by a central governing body, nor did he believe in the teachings of that organization. After Russell died, Joseph Rutherford, through deception and legal trickery, gained control of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, and used the legal entity as a basis to form the religious organization that he later called “Jehovah’s Witnesses”.
I have all of Russell’s known extant writings. I have never seen anywhere that he claimed that he alone had to sole authority to interpret scriptures.
http://ctr.reslight.net
Christian love,
Ronald
September 21, 2007 at 10:19 pm |
Dr. Kinley said “I am Yahweh but so are you, that only difference was that he was fully conscience of it . The IDMR’s teachings make it very clear that Yahshua (Jesus) is the only begotten of the father, & that there is only one name given unto salvation and that is Yahshua. The Messiah was Hebrew, Yahshua is his name, please note that proper names do not change. Yahshua means Yahweh’s salvation. The Messiah said I come in my father’s name and ye receive me not let another come in his own name and him you will receive. You have accepted Jesus not knowing that it is an erroneous name. Look up the name Jesus in a good dictionary. You have your father’s name & the Messiah has his fathers name. Further more Dr. Kinley states in his lectures “do not believe anything that I have said but to research it yourself”. He prooved all things. Everything that exist is Yahweh. He is the source the substance the limits & the bounds. Nothing exist outside of Yahweh. You have taken Dr. Kinley’s statement totally out of context. False prophets are ones who can not proove anything & they all have a different story other than that of the apostles. Dr. Kinley’s story is the same as the apostles. Yahweh says I change not. As far as a feel good approach, it is obvious that you did not know him personally for he was a man of many sorrows. As far as him being unhappy with the Church of God, he was saddened by the fact that he could not see how with all the various religious dogmas that ALL of us could be reconciled unto Yahweh. But he was given the answered, this would be done through the Messiah which his body is the church, and as believers we are part of Yahshua. Dr. Kinley often said that he could do nothing but that the father in him doeth the works. The Archtype pattern of the universe is Yahweh-Elohim, the Word, The Son, Yahshua, everything was made by him & for him. You are right in saying that the Satanic spirit is aware of this pattern but they have no understanding. To be carnal minded & spiritually minded are 2 different things. The carnel mind does not understand the spiritual things of Yahweh. The only difference between the IDMR members & Christians is that we pride ourselves in worshiping the creator after the spirit, we know how to rightfully divide the word of truth. Everything else that is taught in the so called churches is nothing compared to the deeper inner understanding that the Holy Spirit gives to those that diligently seek him. The church world still practices cardinal ordinances & the IDMR members don’t. When Yahshua got on the cross he was the only sacrifice pleasing to the father. He was the first & the last sacrifice, nailing everything to the cross, including the things that you may think are neccessary for salvation. It is a gift, given by Yahweh, it is his grace & mercy thru his love for us is why we have salvation. The scriptures clearly tell you that the first Adam (Ish) was made a living sould but the second Adam (Yahshua) was raised a quickening spirit. flesh & blood can’t inherit the kingdom of Yahweh, which is peace, joy & righteousness in the holy spirit. Those that saw the Messiah after he came out the grave saw a vision & those that touched him touched a vision. With Yahweh everything is possible. You need to understand that he can do anything , even send you a strong dillusion & cause you to believe a lie. (like the one about the Messiah being raised in the flesh.) If you are going to comment on Dr. Kinley or any other IDMR members will you please tell the truth.
November 2, 2007 at 8:47 pm |
Everything today, to be true is by Faith. All books are either True or
false. We were not there in the time of the Bible or the Koran or any
other book that claim to be the word of God. I myself, believe that the
is Bible is true by faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.
January 21, 2008 at 8:10 pm |
Glenda has taken the words right out of my mouth. For you to put other people down, you sure are as far away from the truth as you can possibly be. A carnal mind can’t understand the spiritual, and that’s what you have. The next time you do decide to speak about IDMR or any of the organization’s members, make sure you truley understand everything you hear and get your story straight. Oh yeah, FYI, Dr. Kinley is not in hell…. we are.
January 22, 2008 at 12:37 pm |
How can I argue with your so many, many words when I have only one? Elohim! Clayton…..John 1:1-1:14 says thus…”the bible is NOT the Word!!! The scriptures NEVER refer to themselves as the Word!!! The Messiah IS the Word!!!! geez! Ya’ know, I really dislike it when people read one or two verses and declare themselves experts well enough to teach any other. Read the whole book, and remember what you’ve read, and THEN proceed with your ignorant argument.
May Yahweh, your Elohim have mercy on the uneducated.
Yahweh Elohim forever, through the grace given us by the redeeming works of his son, Yahshua.
With love and warmest regards-John
February 1, 2008 at 8:02 pm |
O K !!!
Dear Clayton
you need to really attended a branch of the IDMR , Before you write something about it or any other group!!!
Your in yahshua
Jeff
February 22, 2008 at 6:52 pm |
If you want to see for your self, check out this website: http://www.ayahasherayah.org. Click the Henry C. Kinley page. Then scroll to audio and listen to the lecture Yahweh Took On Shape And Form and you will hear the speaker explain the entire purpose of our Creator from start to finish in about an hour.
March 24, 2008 at 5:49 am |
Just more ignorance of the world! Yah is in control…..there are his begotten sons and his created but while in the flesh all have a chance to be born again but it is by his will not our own and he desides who will recieve his holy spirit and who will remain damned for eternity.No sence beating our heads against brick walls as i said yahweh is in control.Every tub has to sit on its own bottom,lets pay attention to our own.
April 1, 2008 at 11:42 pm |
I have been to the Idmr Websites,while being somewhat imformative,you make things very complicated for the average person. I think God never intended for people to be highly educated in order to understand his message.That’s why your message is not reaching a lot of people.The Idmr website is never updated and if you e-mail them the never respond to you.The ayahasherayah site is a little better,but a lot of the videos are of poor quality and inaudible.It seems that Idmr would go to greater lengths to get there message instead of acting like a recluse.
May 7, 2008 at 5:44 am |
John, Please attend a class and we will answer any question you have.
If you want to know something about the Idmr all classes gladly welcome visitors.
And, by the way, it is conducted like a class, nothing scary at all. If you contact an individual class or dean I am sure they will welcome you.
However, videos, books, and letters are just not the same as being an eye-witness.
July 1, 2009 at 11:58 pm |
A class??? See, thats where your wrong, if you really wanted to tell people about your so called “truth”, you wouldn’t require them to attend a class. here’s an excert from a former IDMR member-
How many times have we heard in the Assembly that we “have to come to class” and we “have to bring other people to class” because “this gospel can’t be preached outside of THIS CLASS”. In order to get a true knowledge and understanding of the Creator, and have eternal life, then you HAVE TO COME TO CLASS. Some have even used the analogy of a doctor who does not operate on a patient in the street. That patient must be brought to the hospital or the doctor’s office. Of course, this is to get you into
their controlled environment. The order of the service is set up a certain way for a reason. First, you hear three or four songs from the choir which are usually familiar, popular tunes with new words sung over the music. You have to settle into your chair and RELAX
because they need you to be in a state of mind where you are receptive to their doctrine. There’s flowers or pretty pictures on the walls (within your peripheral vision) so that you will associate those pleasant items with their doctrine. In front of you are these brightly colored picture charts encircled by reddish-orange “clouds of fire” which they say
“only symbolizes and depicts the spirit” which is a consuming fire. Like I said above, you’re scared to wander (or wonder) “outside of the camp”. They make sure that the one depicting the children of Israel’s exodus from Egypt is directly in front of the visitors
so that you know which camp they’re talking about.
Sandra, whether you know it or not, your brainwashed! I also know that you dont have member fees, but you have “mandatory” donations, i sure hope you keep up on those, or else You are considered Bad. And what is the deal with the “Y on your face” english is not, I repeat N O T!!! the true Language of God, Yeshua, or whatever you choose to call my Lord and Savior. so, did we have to wait untill english was invented so we could say that His name is written on our face. your Founder was a LIAR, and wasnt happy with what God was giving him. just do some research, oh, and read up on all your School’s History, not just what they want you to read. If you want any more, just start an arguement, I guarantee you that you wont win.
I Write this all in the love of Christ(the Author of my life.)
Matthew
May 8, 2008 at 11:31 pm |
You are an evil person who loves killing, I wish your kind had died out in the dark ages.
The only reason there cannot be peace is because of people like YOU on all sides.
Do the world a favor and all of your kind go and kill each other alone.
May 23, 2008 at 2:27 am |
IDMR i dont believ its a cult but it raises question as to how you model your philosophy with the human body?You basically saying that any body is god.and it sounds like a 5% nation that was found in the eraly 70s for black power.loook it up,cause it seems like there is alot alot of pro IDMR member that has written on here.Look up the 5% nation .thank you
May 29, 2008 at 2:11 am |
I would go to one of your classes ,but from what I seen on the internet IDMR is Fractured over this so called new doctrine proposed by Dr.Harris in which no can be saved.One side has rebelled and has started The Pattern of Everything website,which is full of information and is much better them the IDMR website.IDMR must provide a united front ,before I attend a class.I have taken internet courses through college,and I don’t see the difference between being there or learning it over the internet.I think some leaders of IDMR has control issues thats why they don’t give out a lot of information on the IDMR Doctrine. If IDMR was so interested in spreading the message they would use the cheapest and fastest method possible ,which is the internet.
June 6, 2008 at 10:24 pm |
All I have to say is come to class and be edified. I am a member of IDMR and I admit, I was sceptical,because I was raised in a very southern baptist family.We encorage to research the teaching. If you have any questions, come to an IDMR bible class and ask. You cannot properly judge until you have step foot into a class and ask questions. I did and I see a whole new perspective on life.
June 6, 2008 at 10:32 pm |
Oh, and response to Ralph’s mesage, IDMR has done 3 World Wide Peace Missions and many IDMR classes have television programs displayed locally. As for the internet, words create have different semantics. If we totally relied on the internet, we would not be able to get the whole message across; for example, if one wanted to know more about a different culture and uses exclusively the internet, one will not be able to get the whole crux of what the culture is all about until you actually visit and talk to people first hand. Many leaders have the Elohim the Archtype book that they review. It is so easy for those to judge when those do not understand. I am a teacher and feel that I am a well rounded, no controling individual. I am an open minded individual for change. I love it.
July 22, 2008 at 9:16 pm |
Man its crazy how u he listed all the other cults but none of them were here to claim except jehovahs witness. In my opinion i think you should go to class. I just started going to IDMR and wow its an eye opener man. I understand you have to be cool and watch out because there are alot of false prophets out there. But like it says in the scripture, “know the spirit by the spirit”. I get a good feeling going to class. Ive only been 3x times but i cant stop telling ppl about it and it hards to get ppl to understand. I was skeptically like every new comer. But Glenda did kill it, good words. I believe like Glenda said grace has to be given it cant be earned. and as a carnal mind its hard to let go of something that you was pretty much born into (methodist, christian, etc..) So stay up and keep an opened mind. Go to class wont hurt.
August 6, 2008 at 8:02 pm |
IDMR in Dallas had their members beliveing and Deans preaching the worl was coming to an end in 1996!! They had members of the cult taking cash advances and quitting there jobs. I knew some members they bought in hook line and sinker and were mortified when all they believed collapsed like a deck of cards.
August 8, 2008 at 10:14 pm |
I have several members of my family who attend IDMR and I myself have been. There is a scripture that yells in my ear everytime I think of IDMR…REV. 22:18 if anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book… Another verse is Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
It is important here to note it was repeated over in verse 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone reaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
The scriptures tell us to study for ourselves, to test what we learn with the scriptures.
Our Lord is not an author of confusion…he says so in his word. We don’t need other men to have visions or dreams or angels or anything else to tell us what God himself has given us.
Just read your bible and you will know the “Truth”
August 28, 2008 at 5:59 pm |
We do not need to be on here. Michael
September 19, 2008 at 7:47 pm |
I used to attend these classes for 3 months. I stop going because these people never talk about FAMILY……..Its all about……..Just come to class just come to class……..Yahweh(Dr. Kinley) this and Yahweh(Dr. Kinley) that.
They “Never” mentioned the “Importance of a Nucleus Family”…..Its no wonder that their members are divorcing each other……sleeping with each other….
Another thing that just shocked me was when they predicted the world was going to end. Twice they did this. They said it would end in 1996 and 2000……Well we are still here…..
This should be evidence that this is nothing more than a CULT…….Because they say Dr. Kinley was Yahweh himself aint that what they say……????? So if Dr. Kinley told these people the world was going to end,, these words came from the CREATOR himself who was supposed to be Dr. Kinley and it never happened…..So YAHWEH must have LIED……or Dr. Kinley told a LIE…
Now lets talk about FACTS……
The Universe is OLD. I think we all can agree that the universe is older than 4000 years the or the age of ADAM/EVE…..Since we agree that this is true then we must agree that Humanity/Civilization is older than 4000 years. Now then, it is FACT that we can trace humans, NOT CAVEMEN, I am talking about civilised people back to what was called the “Paleolithic Era”. This dates back to 700,000 years ago………This Era consist of the “Middle Paleolithic, the “Upper Paleolithic, the “Epipaleolithic and finally the “PreDynastic Era of Kemet”. Kemet is the original name of Egypt. The Greeks called it Egypt……Since YAHWEH is a Hebrew GOD we must REALIZE that at this time there is not “ONE” Hebrew on the face of the EARTH……..There are no Moslems, there are no Catholics, there are no GREEKS, there are no BAPTIST, No Budist, No Hinduist…….All of the so-called modern day religions did not exist during this time……
Kemet had 25 dynasties that spanned over 10,000 years. In the 12th Dynasty Kemet was taken over by people called “Hyksos” or Semetic shepards…….These people ruled, yes they ruled Kemet for 200 years…..In the 15th Dynasty they were forced out by the “Indigenous” people of Kemet…….Fast forward to the 18th Dynasty we have a King named Amonhotep 4th…..His mother was of Semetic heritage……
Understand that from the first Dynasty the NAME OF THE CREATOR WAS “Amon-Ra”……..and you will find that all the Pharohs had this Signage attached to their name……but Amonhotep 4th changed his name to represent a “NEW” religion and new name of the creator…..He changed his name to Ahkenaten……He changed the name of the creator to “ATEN”.
Fast forward: Ahkenaten was forced out of Kemet along with some of his Semetic followers and some of his Egyptian followers to Mount Sinai……I know the BIBLE says it was MOSES he led but if you read some BOOKS other than the BIBLE you will find the truth…….
ALL THIS I AM TELLING IS FACTS……You dont have to take my word for it….just do some research…..Better yet take a TOUR TO KEMET/EGYPT….and see it for yourself………I been to Egypt 5 times and have seen the evidence……….
NOW: While in Sinai Ahkenaten and his followers made secret the name “ATEN”……..In Hebrew, the letter T became D and the letter E became O……We now have ADON……The Hebrews added the letters a and i………We now have “ADONAI”…….But they still decided this name was not to be spoken so the made the “TETRAGRAMMATON” YHWH……and this name was originally “Yehovah”…..I am I right or wrong???
The letter J did not exist back then……….Over time “Yehovah became “Yahweh”……….
Its not my intention to change anyones mind…..But its my duty as a teacher of truth to make people read more BOOKS……
September 19, 2008 at 8:37 pm |
One More Important Note: IDMR is one of the Biggest cults going…if you are in it PLEASE get out…..
It is VIRTUALLY impossible for Yahweh to have stepped into the body of ADAM like they teach in IDMR…..
The Bible clearly states that GOD “Cannot” be Tempted by Evil/Satan…..and I think ADAM was Tempted…..and submitted.
October 13, 2008 at 1:58 am |
I don’t have a mother anymore because of the IDMR. In her weakness after getting divorced, my mother met and fell instantly in love with some guy in Trinidad who put her into this mess. Since she couldn’t have him, she married another conman in the “class” after knowing him for 3 months. She moved him in with by brother, my sister, and I when I was a teenager.
He never worked and she supported him completely because she was so in love with “Yahweh in him”. When he started hitting us because we wouldn’t respect him the way we wanted, she stood by and said nothing. She has to ask her class members what to do and decided to stay with him because Yahweh doesn’t condone divorce. Anyone who wants to stay in her house has to convert and “go to class” so when I was 16, I moved in with my Dad.
Her “husband” has a reputation of meeting single mothers, preferably African-American ones and moving in with them to bring chaos to their homes just like he did to us, all of them in the IDMR. Even our step-siblings tried to talk sense into my mother about him, yet she always puts anyone in class over her whole family. To be honest, she doesn’t have much family left, everyone has given up on her. We even planned an intervention but at this point, doubt it would make a difference on her addiction.
Her husband has since then moved on to other victims but my Mom is still gone. Her blind “faith” has driven a wedge that I fear will never be fixed. I have brought up many questions that couldn’t be “proved until I was satisfied” as they smugly brag. One issue was about how a successful barber in class suddenly cut his dreadlocks because some of the class members felt that he was representing himself as a rastafarian and didn’t want that depiction. I asked what the hell a hairdo mattered to a holy spirit and asked for the scripture that talked about it. I happen to be black and my natural hair is kinky; I love my natural hair and love to twist it up so that means I’m going to hell? Well Dr. Kinley didn’t walk around with a damn relaxer in his head? My point did bring doubt to others in my presence that day.
My mother moves strangers in her house. The password must be “Yahweh” because she doesn’t even do a background check! She lives in NYC for God’s sake! So, she leaves these unemployed bums in her house while they say that they will pay her and never do yet my brother and sister have to pay rent when they need a place to stay! She won’t help my little sister get into college but she cosigns on a car with someone in class who, lo and behold, refuses to pay her back.
Because the world is going to end (I’ve been hearing that for a while), she barely goes to work and spends all of her money visiting classes in other areas. My mother is the only grandparent that I have ever known to not have time for her only grandson. When we lived there in NY after I got out of the military, she NEVER had time to even pick my son up from school even though she got home earlier than anyone else because she needed to rest up before class. I can trust my son’s other grandparents before I can trust her to give a damn about him!
I don’t know why I keep trying to have a relationship with her. She came for the weekend I thought to see my son and meet my fiance but she has spent approximately 7 hours of her being awake in 3 days because she called someone from class to pick her up. Priorities, huh?
I brought up to her how it doesn’t make sense that they keep preaching not to care about school or work yet they fund Dr. Harris’ schooling to make sure he keeps his license as a medical doctor. If they are so different from church, how come he doesn’t work? Why is his only job to preach if Yahweh can be in ANY body? Then why yell blasphemy when some other their speakers get on the floor and say that they ARE Yahweh? Is he only in Dr. Harris? Why? Because he knew Dr. Kinley?
My mother wouldn’t even go to my little sister’s wedding because she had to go to class.
When she loses her job is the IDMR going to take her in? Who’s going to be at her bedside when she gets her legs cut off when her diabetes finally takes them considering that she won’t follow doctor’s orders because “this is only the flesh”.
If you want someone to use and get free room & board, the IDMR will deliver someone who used to be my Mom. Have fun because my family has been hurt for the last time. She is dead to me now. On the good note, I swear that I will never make my son feel that he is not important to me. It is a terrible feeling.
October 30, 2008 at 8:19 am |
cjBeliever:
Ayana S., my heart and every fiber of my being is saddened for your loss. The state of mind of your mother is the result of perversion of the true doctrine that Dr. Kinley received and taught. There is no truth being taught in IDMR! True teaching of Dr. Kinley’s panaramatic vision MUST line up, without the perversion of Dr. Harris and his imps scattered around the world devouring souls; as they have your mother. They WILL PAY I assure you.
November 3, 2008 at 8:02 pm |
I am so sorry that you cannot see beyond this flesh. Just because there are people who are in our organization who promoted the belief that the world would end, and are sleeping around and are getting divorced does not mean that IDMR is wrong. When are people going to up off of this flesh? People in Christianity sleep around and so on and so forth… and that doesn’t hold them back from believing—does it? I am sorry, Ayana that you feel this way– but do not condemn an entire assembly because of your mother’s mistakes! we all make them– I dont know her, so I am not calling her a negative spirit or anything– but just b/c you are in class does not keep you from making stupid mistakes~ we all to learn somtimes! She must be in a class that has a strong satanic presence. b/c your hair has nothing to do with it! I dont have natural hair… but I do put weave, braids & color into it. I also have a few piercings and tattoos– AGAIN, its not about the flesh– obviously they havent come to see that! WE DO NOT FUND Dr.Harris by any means– he lives off of his retirement fund– he dosent work b/c hes 88 years old– waaay beyond early retirement years. His duty is to spread the TRUE words and gospel b/c evey organization needs a leader. Yes, we do still need a HEAD of the IDMR BODY, to get buisness taken care of. and YES, Yahweh can be in ANYbody but he does so in different measures and Dr. Harris has the greatest measure in IDMR– is a bag or rice not still a bag of rice-big OR small? Im not sure who misinformed you, but they definately did some damage! I am sorry your mother has HER priorities messed, she needs to get help [coming from a person who GREW UP in class]– but dont blame that on IDMR– that is ignorant! I grew up in class, I am now 21… in college, with great friends [most of whom are not in class], completely normal young adult. I am living proof, that IDMR is not a cult nor did it destroy my life or any relationships I have with anyone! In fact it improved my life. DO NOT bash what you dont understand. “Love overcomes a multitude of sins”. so keep loving her, and hopefully one day Yahweh will put some sense in her head! And yes, the world IS going to end– no man knows when that time cometh. Must I remind you that Dr. Kinley– having all knowledge, took his medicine as if it was going to “help” the day he died– even though he knew he was going to take off the flesh. Just because the world is going to end dosent mean you still shouldnt LIVE– i mean, he DID give us this life! Sound like your mother has it all wrong! btw- saying the world is going to end soon dosent mean its going to happen in our lifetime! our time is not his time– in corinthians it states– 1 day is as one thousand years and one thousand years is as one day– 1day=1000 years! His soon and our soon are two different things!
ANYWAY:
Dr. Kinely was NOT talking about this flesh—! Everything he said was spiritual. He nor did Dr. Harris EVER SAY: “THE WORLD WILL END IN 1996” neither did either one of them say: “THE WORLD WILL END IN 2000”. NEVER—you wont find it, and you’ll never find it cause it ain’t there!
No- I am not trying to justify the folks in IDMR for committing these sins which so easily beset them. What I am saying is there is a negative spirit in operation—that means in class (IDMR) as well! Without darkness- we wouldn’t appreciate light—which is why your comment does not bother or sadden me~ b/c your ignorance shows forth the work Yahweh has done in me! I just don’t want anyone who reads your thoughts and opinions—NOT FACTS (only YAHWEH knows those) and believe them to be truth. What you speak is blasphemy.
The bible was written for the sons of Elohim, and if you be not in that body—you are reading someone else’s mail—HELLO! It makes sense that no one but IDMR has been able to make sense out of this book— and it also makes sense that Mr. Kirred Sirom would go outside of this book to try and prove it wrong~ b/c you can only dispute the bible with what man has recoreded as history when really—its HIS-story [Elohim]. What would make a man believe another man lest he believeth not in HIM [EloHIM]? Did IDMR not teach you, that before Yahshua the messiah died on the cross there was no light in them. Way back in the days you are referring to—Pentecost had not come to be, therefore there was no light in them—not permanently, only in one Yahshua the messiah.
You are wrong in so many different ways—but, it is the satanic spirit’s duty to oppose and twist the truth into a lie, and oh so subtly—do we not remember Eve in the garden, when satan said: “you will NOT surely die”—all he changed was one word and decived the WHOLE WORLD—that includes me and that includes you. But he saw fit to keep me… and saw fit to let you go—that’s all in his purpose though, so I’m not hating, just speaking REAL truth and knowledge. If you want to fight fire with “fire”… use the bible next time you try to disprove something!
While I am on Eve—ADAM DID NOT COMMIT SIN! 1 Timothy 2:14: “And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression”. Please, be sure to check yourself before you blaspheme against him who lives!
IDMR is not a cult. Believe what you will—just remember: judge and BE judged. Whoever opposes Yahweh just simply cannot judge, and will be dammed forever and ever. HALLELU-YAH!
What makes you think that we were the first creation on this earth? Did he not wipe out the inhabitants of the earth during the flood? Did it ever occur to you that: just because it was not recorded in the bible does not mean it didn’t happen—and since the holy spirit was not being given out before the death of the messiah, its appropriate that they called him ADONAI—they didn’t call him Yahweh until after he died—b/c that’s when the holy spirit was being given. Look THAT up—nowhere in the bible did you hear anyone refer to the messiah as YAHWEH [or God]—its just not in there. They referred to him as Adonai, Rabbai, Master, Emmanuel etc. If you notice, the only time the name God or Yahweh was being used in the Old Testament was when the author wrote: and Yahweh said… you never read when anyone called his name Yahweh or God. And the author knew his name because, the holy spirit got in and out of bodies to write the words that he wanted us to read—none of these words were written by mere men—Yahweh would never let that happen!
And before I leave—WHAT?— “It is VIRTUALLY impossible for Yahweh to have stepped into the body of ADAM like they teach in IDMR”. THIS IS ASHAME. How do you limit Yahweh? He is the creator, master & ruler. THE ONLY Omnipotent, omnipresent, all in all Elohim! Yahweh is the limit, source, substance, bounds, essence & origins of EVERYTHING INCLUDING ADAM! I don’t know about your God but my God—The only true Elohim can do anything!
July 2, 2009 at 12:08 am |
Alright Candice. Here’s your quote “Dr. Kinely was NOT talking about this flesh—! Everything he said was spiritual. He nor did Dr. Harris EVER SAY: “THE WORLD WILL END IN 1996” neither did either one of them say: “THE WORLD WILL END IN 2000”. NEVER—you wont find it, and you’ll never find it cause it ain’t there!”
you’re right, you wont find them, they are there, but they are well hidden or destroyed. if one really wanted to find this false information, it is possible
November 4, 2008 at 5:04 pm |
To Candice Lane:
My Sister.
Have you ever been to Israel???? Have you ever been to the Valley of the Kings in Kemet/Egypt???? The people who are living in ISRAEL today do not believe what IDMR is teaching and correct me if I am wrong, but is it not ISRAEL that YAHWEH’s people are from?????
What I am saying is this and it is simple……BEFORE ISRAEL CAME INTO EXISTENCE………civilization, religion and a CREATOR was already here.
All I am saying is you need to know and understand HISTORY…….BEFORE THE FIRST Hebrew came on the scene…….Religion and the worship of the CREATOR was already here…….
In the year 5000B.C.E was the first DYNASTY of Kemet/Egypt. During this time you cannot find evidence of anyone who would call themselves a Hebrew…..The name of the CREATOR was Amen-Ra.
Please do some research before you tell me I am wrong…….Better yet take a trip to ISRAEL and KEMET/Egypt and see for yourself……
November 4, 2008 at 5:13 pm |
I will submit a TIMELINE to those people who think that civilization started with ADAM which dates back about 4000 years and to REFUTE that LIE about a flood of the earth with NOAH….
Never has their ever been a stop in time. NEVER has there ever been a “TOTAL” destruction of humanity that which is spoken of in the bible by NOAH and some FLOOD….
Africa and the Diaspora Timeline
This TimeLine at the time of the original drafting of my paper for African Ensemble Drumming Class entitled Historical Perspective on African Drumming was to be found on the African History website (http://www.africanhistory.com/). Since this site is no more I have chosen to make this resource available on my website so that the hotlink will again work and will allow readers to again access to this information vital to the over standing of the subject at hand. The original copyright notice is intact and presented at the bottom of this page.
2.5 MM — Homo habilis (African) appears.
1.0 MM — Homo erectus (African) appears.
150 M — Homo sabiens sapiens (African) appears.
43000 — Africans begin iron mining in the Nile Valley.
33000 — Invasion of Europe by the Grimaldi Negroid from Africa.
30000 — Africans of Monomotapa create the first sculpture of a human figure.
30000 — Arrival of Australians in Australia.
20000 — First Cro-Magnon in Europe.
17850 — Africans cultivating and harvesting barley and einkorn wheat in the Nile Valley.
15000 — Africans in Kenya domesticate cattle.
12000 — Sebelian II rules in Pre-Dynastic Kemet.
10000 — The first calendar is introduced by the Africans of the Nile Valley.
8000 — Sebelian III rules in Pre-Dynastic Kemet.
6020 — Africans in the Congo use markings on bones to develop a numeration system. 4100 — The first solar calendar is introduced by Kemet and Kush.
3800 — Emergence of earliest Nubian civilization.
3758 — The world’s first religious principles are written by the Kushite, King Ori (right & wrong).
3400 — Nubian Kingdom of Ta-Seti founded.
3150 — King Narmer (Menes) unifies Upper and Lower Kemet and establishes Memphis as capital.
3000 — Modern West Africans develop more complex societies in Nigeria.
2980 — King Khasekhemuwy rules in Kemet during the 2nd Dynastry.
2900 — Kush invades and establishes the Kingdom of Elam in the Empire of Persia.
2685 — The Grand Lodge of Luxor was built at Danderah by Khufu.
2650 — Imhotep of Ta-Merry builds Step Pyramid and Saqqara complex during Zoser’s reign.
2500 — Indus Valley civilization in India develops; Dravidians from Africa are foundation builders.
2465 — All the great pyramids at Dahshur & Giza, sun temples and mortuary complexes completed.
2323 — Pyramid Texts inscribed in tomb of King Unas.
2300 — An African King rules Mesopotamia, King Patesi of Lagash, more generally known as Gudea.
2150 — Kemet experiences cultural upheaval (until 2040 B.C.E.).
2040 — Mentuhotep II unifies Kemet and relocates the capital to Waset.
2000 — Beginning of the Kingdom of Cush in Sudan with its capital at Kerma.
1897 — Amenemhet constructs the great Kemetic Labyrinth.
1783 — First Asian invasion of Kemet by Hyksos (until 1550 B.C.E.).
1700 — Agricultural revolution in sub-Saharan Africa. 1550 — King Ahmose defeats the Hyksos and reunifies Kemet.
1504 — Thutmose I expands rulership to include Persia and Iraq.
1500 — Beginning of the Olmecs in Mexico (to 800 B.C.E.).
1473 — Queen Hatshepsut rules Kemet as first female pharaoh.
1391 — Thutmose III rules Kemet at the height of its military power. Queen Tiye rules by his side.
1353 — Amenhotep IV (Akhenaton) introduces concepts of Aton as the only God in Kemet.
1333 — Tutankhamen becomes the king.
1306 — Seti I, the father of Rameses II builds major tomb in the Valley of the Kings.
1290 — Rameses II (Rameses the Great) rules Kemet for 67 years.
1070 — Period of great social, political, and religious decline in Kemet (until 750 B.C.E.).
970 — Cush becomes an independent kingdom with the capital at Napata on the Nile.
760 — King Kashta rules Meroe until 751
751 — Piye (Piankhi), Nubian king conquers Upper and Lower Kemet removing foreigners
716 — King Shabato rules Meroe until 701
690 — Taharqa leads military invasion of Spain and Palestine.
667 — Nubians battle Assyrians for both Lower and Upper Kemet.
600 — Pharaoh Necho (Niku) II commissioned Hanno to circumnavigate the entire continent of Africa.
548 — The Secret Temple of the Mysteries System of Delfi is burnt to the ground.
538 — King Analma’aye rules Kush until 533.
533 — King Amani-natake-lebte rules Kush until 513.
525 — Kemet invaded by Cambyses and becomes a part of the Persian Empire.
513 — King Korkamani rules Kush until 503.
503 — King Amani-astabarqa rules Kush until 478.
500 — Nok culture thrives in western Sudan (Nigeria).
478 — King Sisaspiqa rules Kush until 458.
460 — Herodotus arrives in Kemet searching for knowledge.
458 — King Nasakhma rules Kush until 453.
453 — King Malewiebamani rules Kush until 423.
423 — King Talakhamani rules Kush until 418.
418 — King Aman-nete-yerike rules Kush until 398.
398 — King Baskakeren rules Kush until 397.
397 — King Harisiotet rules Kush until 362.
380 — 30th Dynasty is the last period of rulership by native-born Kemetic kings (ends 343 B.C.E.).
342 — King Akhratan rules Kush until 328.
332 — Alexander of Macedonia (Alexander the Great) defeats the Persian army and conquers Kemet.
328 — King Nastasen rules Kush until 308.
300 — In Kush the royal institution of the Kentake (Candaces) or Queen Mother is established.
300 — Africans in Kenya develop a complex calendar system based on astronomical reckoning.
280 — Merotic Script, an indigenous form of written communication is introduced.
260 — Queen Bartare rules Meroe until 250.
250 — Zenith of Meroitic civilization until 100 A.D.
218 — Hannibal leads his army across the Alps to challenge Rome.
170 — Queen Shanakdakhete rules Meroe until 160.
41 — Queen Amanishabhete rules Meroe until 12; Roman invasion occurs in 23.
30 — Augustus Caesar claims Egypt as a province of Rome.
22 — Africans living in Tanzania produce carbon steel in 1,800°C blast furnaces.
12 — Queen Amaritare rules Meroe until 12 A.D.
62 A.D. — Queen Amanikhastashan rules Meroe (Nubia) until 85 100 — Hausa Bokwoi rose as an empire in Nigeria
(beginning as separate states)
300 — States of Takrur and Ghana founded.
330 — Conquest of Meroitic Empire by Nuba; Aksum becomes commercial center of sub-Saharan.
350 — Aksumite king Ezana converts to Christianity and declares it the state religion..
391 — Christian Emperor Theodosius bans the ancient religious systems of Egypt (book burning).
500 — originally from Mali or Guinea, the Djembe’ is believed to have seen its invention near this time.
527 — Christian Emperor Justinian closes the last Egyptian temple at Philae.
550 — Emperor Kanissa-ai of Ghana chooses Koranga as his capital city; his mother was born there.
641 — Moslems first invasion of Nubia (Sudan).
642 — Conquest of Egypt by Arabs and the introduction of Islam.
700 — States of Gao and Kanem founded (until 900).
715 — The first Moorish Dynasty, the Umayyad, ruled Spain from 715 to 750.
846 — Founding of the Kanem-Bornu kingdom east of Lake Chad.
880 — The Yoruba founded Ife, still the spiritual centre of Yorubaland.
900 — Kingdom of Ghana.
990 — Grasslanders move into the forests of Nigeria, begin dynasties at Oyo and Benin.
1000 — Islam moves into sub-Saharan Africa.
1000 — Great Zimbabwe is the capital of Mwenetupa Empire in Southern Africa.
1050 — Mandingo king Baramendana Keita converts to Islam by his own choosing.
1054 — Muslim Berbers (Almoravids) declare a jihad against the Kingdom of Ghana.
1067 — Tunka Menin rules the Empire of Ghana.
1087 — Kanem-Bornu converts to Islam.
1100 — Kingdom of Benin (until 1897).
1116 — According to Idrisi, the emperor of Ghana lived in a stone-fortified castle with glass windows.
1200 — Establishment of Hausa kingdoms in west Africa; first kingdom: Daura.
1203 — Fall of the kingdom of Ghana to the Sosso.
1230 — The fourth and last Moorish Dynasty, The Almohade falls in Spain.
1230 — Kingdom of Mali established under King Sundiata Keita (ruled 1230-1255).
1290 — The Dogon of Mali plot the orbits of various universes and star systems including Sirius B1.
1300 — The slave trade greatly expands in northern Africa, Ethiopia, and the West African savanna.
1324 — Emperor of Mali, Mansa Mussa goes to Mecca with an entourage of 60,000.
1332 — Death of Mansa Musa, the great king of Mali (ruled 1307-1332).
1375 — GAO secedes from Mali, eventually becomes the Songhai Empire.
1415 — Portuguese battle Arabs and Moors in Ceuta in Morocco.
1420 — Minority Tutsi follow Hutu into Rwanda and establish a feudal monarchy.
1438 — The Portuguese travel down the coast of Africa.
1440 — Eware the Great (ruled 1440-1473) expands Benin into a great forest empire. 1442 — The Portuguese buy a small number of African prisoners of war from other Africans.
1450 — Decline of the Kingdom of Mali; rise of the Songhai Empire.
1460 — Cayor emancipates itself from Mali to become an independent province.
1465 — Seven Cayorian dynasties last until 1870; they never embraced Islam.
1468 — Sonni Ali conquers Timbuktu removing the Tuaregs who caused much damage.
1484 — The Fung Kingdom reigns in Sudan until 1790.
1493 — Muhammad Touré (1493-1528) assumes power in Songhai; the empire becomes Muslim.
1500 — Consolidation of Songhai Empire under Askia Muhammed.
1517 — Egypt conquered by the Turks of the Ottoman Empire.
The Diaspora Begins
1518 — The first enslaved Africans arrived in South America, the Caribbean, and North America.
1529 — Muslim state of Adal declares a jihad against Christian Ethiopia, conquers most of Ethiopia.
1538 — The first recorded importation of Africans into Brazil.
1541 — Ethiopia defeats of the Muslims.
1549 –The zenith of the Songhai Empire under Askia Daud (1549-1582).
1569 — The Great Mosque of Timbuktu is restored by Cadi El Aquib.
1593 — Moroccans defeat the Songahai with the help of firearms; rape of men & women is common.
1593 — University of Sankoré, in Timbuktu is destroyed by Arabs & the faculty is exiled to Morocco.
1593 — The great Sudanese scholar Ahmed Baba loses 1,600 books during forced exile by Arabs.
1596 — Askia Nuh does not accept Arab domination and organizes national resistance. 1606 — Enslaved Africans in Brazil establish a maroon settlement known as Palmares.
1623 — Queen Nzingha becomes Monarch of Ndanga (Angola) and declares war on the Portuguese.
1655 — 1,500 enslaved Africans go to Jamaican mountains, establishing free Maroon communities.
1663 — Slave rebellion takes place on September 13th in Gloucester County, Virginia
*1666-1776: Slaves imported only by the English for the English, French and Spanish colonies: 3 million (250,000 died on the voyage).
1672 — Charles the II of England charters the Royal African Company for the purpose of slave trading.
*1680-1786: Slaves imported for the English colonies in America: 2,130,000 (Jamaica alone absorbed 610,000).
1695 — King Zumbi of Palmares is killed by the Portuguese; Palmares is destroyed (November 20th).
1712 — A slave insurrection occurred April 7th in New York City.
*1716-1756: Average annual number of slaves imported for the American colonies: 70,000, with a total of 3.5 million.
1739 — The Maroons of Jamaica and the British sign a peace treaty on March 1st.
1739 — Led by Cato on September 9th, slaves rebel and kill more than 25 enslavers.
*1752-1762: Jamaica alone imported 71,115 slaves.
*1759-1762: Guadeloupe alone imported 40,000 slaves.
1770 — Crispus Attucks is one of the first to die for America at the Boston Massacre on March 5th.
1772 — Lord Mansfield declares exportation of slaves from Britain illegal.
1772 — James Somerset becomes de facto spokesman for Blacks in Britain.
1773 — Poems on Various Subjects, Religious and Moral were published by Phyllis Wheatley.
1774 — Henry Smeathmen proposes to the British government to set up a colony in Sierra Leone.
1776 — During American Revolution many Blacks fight for British promised freedom (ends 1783).
*1776-1800: A yearly average of 74,000 slaves were imported for the American colonies, or a total of 1,850,000; this yearly average was divided up as follows: by the English, 38,000; French, 20,000; Portuguese, 10,000; Dutch, 4,000; Danes, 2,000.
1777 — The Republic of Vermont passes the 1st constitution in the U.S. prohibiting slavery.
1777 — 5,000 Africans participate in the U.S. Revolutionary War.
1783 — Blacks establish settlements in Nova Scotia separately from Whites & legally unrecognized.
1786 — Quakers in Pennsylvania begin to organize the Underground Railroad.
1786 — Blacks in London sign up for colony at Sierra Leone; disembark in Feb ‘87.
1787 — King Naimbana of Temnes permits colony to settle in a treaty with a local British governor.
1787 — The Free African Society is founded in Philadelphia by Richard Allen and Absalom Jones.
1790 — Sierra Leone, disastrous failure most dies from disease; town is destroyed by local peoples.
1790 — Discontented Blacks arrive from Nova Scotia and are met by Granville Town survivors.
1793 — Congress passes the first Fugitive Slave Act on February 12th.
1794 — Sierra Leone attacked by French privateers; colony liberated in two months.
1795 — Jean Baptist Pointe DuSable establishes a trading post at the mouth of the Chicago River.
1798 — Egypt conquered by Napoleon of France.
1800 — Discontent Blacks rebel after demand for Black judges denied; rebellion crushed in a week.
1801 — War in Sierre Leone (ends 1807).
1803 — Sierra Leone Co. petitions British Parliament for loans; they are rejected over four years.
1807 — Colony become under rule directly from London and Sierra Leone Co. is legally dissolved.
1801 — Africans led by Toussaint L’Ouverture revolt and seize complete power in Haiti from France.
1807 — The British Parliament bans the slave trade.
1808 — The importation of enslaved Africans is forbidden by the U.S.; law is ignored.
1810 — The Afro-American Insurance Company is established by three black men.
1811 — Paul Cuffe, a black nationalist begins transporting blacks from North America back to Africa.
1815 — Fulani Emirs declared a jihad against the Hausa state of Gobir
1818 — Frederick Douglass is born on Maryland’s Eastern Shore in Talbot County in February.
1820 — Mohammad Ali of Egypt captures Sudan.
1822 — African Americans settlers found Monrovia, capital of Liberia.
1822 — George Wilson (a black slave) tells white slavers of Denmark Vesey’s plan to lead a revolt.
1823 — Alexander Lucius Twilight graduates from Middlebury College.
1827 — The first African American newspaper is published, Freedom’s Journal.
1831 — The Honorable Nat Turner begins his fight for freedom in Virginia, 60 slavers killed.
1832 — The anti-slavery Abolitionist Party is founded in Boston.
1833 — Enslaved people are freed in all British possessions.
1834 — Henry Blair is the first African American to be granted a U.S. patent (for a seed planter).
1837 — Aleksandr Sergeyevich Pushkin (novelist), a Russian of African descent, is killed in a duel.
1838 — The first African American magazine is published, The Mirror of Liberty.
1839 — Frederick Douglass escapes from slavery.
1839 — Slaves revolt on Spanish ship, Amistad and secure freedom via Supreme Court.
1841 — William A. Liedesdorff from the Virgin Islands becomes the 1st African American millionaire.
1843 — U.S. Patent Office issues Norbert Rillieux a patent for a revolutionary system of refining sugar.
1844 — Macon B. Allen is admitted to the bar in Maine to practice law as a licensed attorney.
1845 — Frederick Douglass’s autobiography Narrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass is published.
1847 — Liberia becomes an independent republic on July 26th.
1847 — Frederick Douglass begins publishing The North Star, an anti-slavery journal.
1849 — Harriet Tubman escapes from slavery; returns to the South over twenty times to free others.
1850 — Slave trade is forbidden in the District of Columbia.
1850 — Emperor Tewodros II led campaigns against Egyptian intruders.
1852 — Martin R. Delany publishes The Condition, Elevation, Emigration, and Destiny….
1853 — William Wells Brown’s novel The President’s Daughter is published.
1854 — The first modern college for Blacks established at Ashmun Institute (Lincoln University).
1855 — The founder of modern Ethiopia, Emperor Tewodros II unifies Ethiopia and teaches Menelik.
1857 — The Supreme Court denies blacks U.S. citizenship; Dred Scott loses his case.
1859 — Militant anti-slaver, John Brown is hung for treason after raiding a federal arsenal in Virginia.
1859 — Harriet Wilson’s novel Our Nig is published.
1860 — Isaac Myers begins organizing the Colored National Labor Union.
1861 — Yoruba, under pressure from black muslims, draws closer to Britain, which annexes Lagos.
1862 — Ida B. Wells is born on July 16th.
1862 — 186,000 Africans serve during the Civil War; 38,000 die in service.
1863 — The first school for freed enslaved people is founded in Frogmore, South Carolina.
1863– Abraham Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation.
1863 — William Brown published The Black Man: His Antecedents, His Genius, & His Achievements.
1864 — The Ku Klux Klan is organized in Pulaski, Tennessee.
1864 — During the Berlin Conference of 1884-85 European countries plot the complete colonialization of Africa
1865 — General Lee surrenders to General Grant at Appomotax, ending the U.S. Civil War
1865 — The Thirteenth Amendment, which outlaws slavery in the U.S., is ratified
1866 — Fisk University is established in Knoxville, Tennessee.
1867 — Negro League Baseball begins in early Spring until late Fall then the Winter season
1867 — Sarah Breedlove (Madam C.J. Walker) is born on a Mississippi River plantation in Delta, LA to former slaves, Owens and Minerva Breedlove
1868 — The Fourteenth Amendment, validating citizenship rights for all persons born in the U.S.
1869 — The British and other Ethiopians encircled Emperor Tewrodos II; he commits suicide.
1870 — The ratification of the Fifteenth Amendment secures voting rights for all male U.S. citizens.
1870 — Thomas M. Peterson is the first African American to vote.
1874 — Blanche Kelso Bruce becomes the first African American senator to serve a full term.
1876 — Edward Alexander Bouchet receives a Ph.D. in physics from Yale University.
1879 — The Zulus defeat the British for the last time in The Battle of Isandlwana.
1879 — A European, Dr. Felkin witnesses a caesarean operation by Banyoro surgeons in Uganda.
1881 — British and Ottoman troops seize control of Egypt and Sudan.
1881 — Booker T. Washington establishes the Tuskegee Institute, an industrial school for blacks.
1883 — Spelman College is founded in Atlanta, Georgia.
1884 — Granville T. Woods secures his first patent was in 1884 for a steam boiler furnace.
1884 — British control of Nigeria expanded, set up under treaties with Yoruba rulers.
1885 — Mohammed-Ahmed, a Sudanese defeats the Anglo-Arab army recapturing much land.
1885 — Belgium colonizes Zaire as Congo Free State.
1885 — A patent is awarded to Sarah Goode for a folding cabinet bed.
1886 — Menelik moves the Ethiopian capital to the Intoto valley (Addis Ababa).
1886 — Frederick Douglass travels to Africa and climbs one of the pyramids.
1887 — Ethiopians defeat a small contingent of Italians near Dogali.
1887 — The Honorable Marcus Garvey is born in Jamaica, August 17th (32 Market St., St. Ann’s Bay).
1887 — Granville T. Woods patents the rail telegraph system.
1889 — Ida B. Wells becomes editor of the Free Press and the Highlight.
1889 — Menelik II is crowned the new Emperor and he makes a treaty with Italy.
1891 — Provident Hospital in Chicago, Illinois becomes the 1st African American Hospital.
1892 — Ida B. Wells is the first writer to document the lynching of African Americans.
1892 — Sarah Boone receives a patent for an ironing board.
1895 — Paul Laurence Dunbar’s poetry collection Majors and Minors is published.
1895 — Frederick Douglass dies.
1896 — Near Adwa, a small Tigrayen city, Ethiopia defeats the Italian colonial army and kills 12,000.
1896 — Paul Laurence Dunbar’s poetry collection Lyrics of Lowly Life is published.
1896 — U.S. Supreme Court decides that separate but equal does not violate the Constitution.
1898 — Paul Robeson is born in Princeton, New Jersey on 4/9, son of an escaped enslaved person.
1899 — Dr. George F. Grant patented the wooden golf tee (Patent #638,920).
1900 — Britain controls Nigeria.
1900 — The first Pan-African Congress convenes in London.
1901 — James and J. Rosamond Johnson write “Lift Every Voice and Sing”.
1901 — Booker T. Washington’s autobiography Up from Slavery is published.
1903 W.E.B. Dubois’s collection The Souls of Black Folks: Essays & Sketches is published.
1903 — The Future Heavyweight Champ Jack Johnson plays 1st base for the Philadelphia Giants.
1903 — Maggie Lena Walker becomes Bank President of St. Luke Bank & Trust Company.
1903 — Williams and Walker open “In Dahomey” the first all black musical on a major Broadway stage.
1904 — Madam C.J. Walker works as an agent for Annie (Pope Turnbo) Malone, founder of the Poro Company, an early manufacturer of hair care products for black women.
1904 — The Atlanta debate between W.E.B. DuBois and Booker T. Washington occurs. 1904 — Philip Payton founds the Afro-American Realty Company in New York City.
1905 — Madam C.J. Walker moves to Denver where she establishes her own hair care products company.
1905 — The Niagara Movement is established; among its leaders is W.E.B. DuBois.
1905 — In Negro Baseball League good teams in major cities make money; white league does not.
1907 — Alain Locke is the first African American Rhodes Scholar.
1908 — Jack Johnson wins the World Heavyweight Boxing Championship.
1908 — Madam Walker moves to Pittsburgh and opens Lelia College to train Walker “hair culturists”.
1909 — The NAACP is founded in New York; almost all the signers of the charter are white.
1909 — Kwame Nkrumah is born on September 18th in the village of Nkroful, Ghana.
1909 — Matthew Henson reaches the North Pole.
1910 — The Hilldale Club of Negro Baseball and their stadium is owned by a Black man. 1910 — Madame C.J. Walker establishes a manufacturing plant in Indianapolis.
1910 — Granville T. Woods, master inventor (over 60 patents in his name) dies.
1911 — National Urban League is founded in New York City.
1911 — Madam Walker pledges $1,000 to the building fund of Indianapolis’s new black YMCA.
1912 — W. C. Handy published the first blues song, Memphis Blues on September 27th. 1912 — James Weldon Johnson’s novel The Autobiography of an Ex-Coloured Man is published.
1912 — Madam Walker speaks at the National Negro Business League convention.
1913 — Menelik II dies and is succeeded by his grandson Lej Isayu.
1913 — Madam Walker divorces C.J. Walker, but retains his name. A’Lelia persuades her mother to purchase a townhouse at 108-110 West 136th Street in Harlem.
1914 — The Universal Negro Improvement & Conservation Association & African Communities League is launched by the Honorable Marcus Garvey.
1914 — Nigerian Council of six African and 30 European members was set up to advice the governor.
1915 — The great migration of southern blacks to the North begins; industry needs labor.
1916 — Belgium takes over rule of Burundi and Rwanda.
1916 — Madam Walker purchases property in Irvington-on-Hudson, New York, the wealthiest residential community in America.
1916 — 350,000 African Americans serve during World War I.
1917 — Race riots in East St. Louis, Illinois.
1917 — Silent Protest Parade in New York City on July 27th.
1918 — The Honorable Marcus Garvey incorporates the Universal Negro Improvement Association in the USA.
1918 — Manuel Raimundo Querino publishes The African Contribution to Brazilian Civilization.
1918 — The French award the Croix de Guerre to the 369th Regiment and named it “Harlem Hell Fighters”.
1919 — Oscar Micheaux finishes his first film, The Homesteader.
1919 — Paul Robeson graduates Valedictorian, Phi Beta Kappa, All-American Football from Rutgers.
1919 — Madam Walker hosts a meeting of the International League of Darker People with Marcus Garvey.
1919 — On May 25th Madam Walker dies at Villa Lewaro of kidney failure caused by hypertension.
1919 W.E.B. Dubois organizes the first Pan-African Congress in Paris.
1921 — Bessie Coleman earns an International Pilot’s license.
1921 — Henry Pace forms the Pace Phonographic Corporation, which owned the Black Swan label.
1922 — Legislative Council (ten Africans, four of them elected and 36 Europeans) in Nigeria.
1922 — Jack Johnson, the first Black Boxing Champion patents a theft-prevention device for vehicles.
1922 — Claude McKay’s poetry collection Harlem Shadows is published.
1923 — Harlem Renaissance Basketball club founded.
1923 — Ethiopia becomes a member of the League of Nations.
1923 — Garrett A. Morgan receives a patent for the first automatic traffic light.
1923 — Paul Robeson graduates from Columbia Law School.
1923 — Marcus Garvey’s The Philosophy & Opinion of Marcus Garvey, two volumes set is published.
1923 — Jean Toomer’s prose collection Cane is published.
1924 — Paul Robeson stars in the lead of The Emperor Jones in the Provincetown Theatre in NYC.
1924 — Paul Robeson stars in his first film, Body and Soul by Oscar Micheaux.
1925 — The Division of Negro Literature, History, and Prints (Schomburg Center) opens.
1925 — The New Negro: An Interpretation is published, formally recognizing Harlem Renaissance.
1925 — The Honorable Marcus Garvey is betrayed by his own people and is sent to prison.
1926 — Carter G. Woodson head of Ass. for Study of Negro Life & History, creates Negro History Week.
1926 — John William Coltrane is born in Hamlet, North Caroline on September 23, 1926.
1927 — Langston Hughes’s poetry collection Fine Clothes to the Jew is published.
1927 — James Weldon Johnson’s God’s Trombones: Seven Negro Sermons in Verse is published.
1927 — A’Lelia Walker (Madam’s daughter) open Dark Tower, a salon for Harlem Renaissance writers, artists, and musicians, at her 136th Street townhouse.
1928 — Innovation of metal ring head mounting system and rope tuning via the Mali weave for djembe’ and other African drums.
1928 — The Mme.C.J. Walker Manufacturing Company opens a $1,000,000 factory, office building and Movie Theater in Indianapolis.
1929 — Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was born on January 15, 1929, in Atlanta, Georgia.
1929 — The U.S. stock market crash sends Mme.C.J. Walker Manufacturing Company into a financial crisis.
1930 — Ras Tafari Mekonen was crowned the new Emperor Haile Selasie after the death of Empress.
1930 — The first Temple of Islam is founded in Detroit, Michigan.
1930 — The Kansas City Monarchs have the first portable light system in Negro Baseball.
1930 — Paul Robeson stars in the London production of Shakespeare’s Othello.
1931 — Ida B. Wells joins her ancestors on March 25th.
1933 — H. Naylor Fitzhugh is the first African American to graduate from the Harvard Business School.
1933 — The publication of the journal Létudiant noir marks the offical birth of the negritude movement.
1934 — Paul and Essie Robeson travel to the Soviet Union at the invitation of Russian film director.
1935 — Negro Baseball League is stable; all clubs at breakeven; biggest black business, $2 MM/yr.
1935 — Mary McLeod Bethune founds the National Council of Negro Women
1935 — Harlem Race Riot occurs.
1935 — Kwame Nkrumah is introduced to The Philosophy & Opinions of Marcus Garvey.
1936 — Jesse Owens wins 4 gold medals at the Olympics in Berlin, Germany.
1936 — Josh Gibson, a catcher for the Negro League’s Pittsburgh Crawfords hits 84 homers.
1937 — Zora Neale Hurston’s novel Their Eyes Were Watching God is published.
1937 — W.E.B. Dubois & Paul Robeson are co-founders & co-chairmen of Council on African Affairs.
1939 — Aimé F. Césaire, The Father of Negritude uses the word in Cahier d’un retour au pays natal.
1940 — The Honorable Marcus Garvey dies with a broken heart on June 10th (God bless his soul).
1940 — American Negro Theater founded.
1940 — Richard Wright publishes the novel Native Son.
1942 — John H. Johnson publishes Negro Digest in November with a $500 loan on mother’s furniture.
1943 — Poor people in Ethiopia revolt in Tigray.
1943 — With Paul Robeson, Othello breaks all Broadway records for Shakespearean productions.
1944 — The U.S. Supreme Court rules that no American can be denied the right to vote.
1944 — The United Negro College Fund is founded on April 24th.
1945 — Dr. Lloyd A. Quarterman receives an award of appreciation for his work on the Atomic Bomb.
1945 — The Negro Leagues reach a plateau of stability and efficiency.
1945 — Gwendolyn Brooks’s poetry collection A Street in Bronzeville is published.
1945 — John Coltrane has his first professional jazz appearance, playing alto sax with the Jimmy Johnson Big Band.
1945 — Richard Wright’s autobiography Black Boy: A Record of Childhood and Youth is published.
1946 — Takala Walda-Hawaryat opposes the return of the exiled Emperor Selasie, is detained.
1946 — Jackie Robinson integrates into the White Baseball League.
1946 — The Street, published by Ann Petry sells more than one million copies.
1947 — Every team in the Negro Leagues loses money; black fans more interested in integration.
1947 — John Coltrane has a jam session with Charlie Parker.
1947 — Présence Africaine, a leading literary journal is founded by Senghor, Césaire, and Demas.
1947 — John Hope Franklin publishes From Slavery to Freedom.
1947 — The new Nigeria Council had 28 African (four elected) and 17 European members.
1948 — Apartheid is instituted in South Africa; it calls for the supremacy of whites.
1948 — U.S. President Harry Truman bans segregation in the armed forces.
1949 — Singer Juanita Hall is the first African American to receive a Tony award.
1950 — John Coltrane (on alto) has a recording session with Dizzy Gillespie and his Orchestra.
1950 — The U.S. government takes Paul Robeson’s passport and attempts to silence him.
1950 — Kwame Nkrumah is arrested and imprisoned by the British.
1950 — Ralph Bunche receives the Nobel Peace Prize for his work as a mediator in Palestine.
1950 — Gwendolyn Brooks is awarded a Pulitzer Prize for her collection of poems, Annie Allen.
1952 — John Coltrane plays with Miles Davis and Sonny Rollins at the Audubon Ballroom in Harlem.
1952 — Africans rebel against British rule in the Mau-Mau uprisings in Kenya (until 1956).
1952 — On March 5th Kwame Nkrumah is named the Prime Minister of Ghana.
1953 — James Baldwin publishes Go Tell It on the Mountain.
1953 — Ralph Ellison receives the National Book Award for fiction for his novel Invisible Man.
1954 — A further constitution declared Nigeria a federation.
1954 — U.S. Supreme Court rules that racial segregation in public schools is unconstitutional.
1954 — George and Joan Johnson found the Johnson Product Company.
1955 — Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop publishes Nations Nègres et Culture.
1955 — Rosa Parks refuses to give up her seat to a white man on a Montgomery, Alabama bus.
1956 — U.S. Supreme Court outlaws segregated seating on buses.
1956 — The First Congress of African Writers is held in Paris.
1957 — The Southern Christian Leadership Conference is formed on February 14th.
1957 — Kwame Nkrumah leads Ghana to independence on March 5th.
1957 — U.S. Congress passes the Voting Rights Act of 1957.
1957 — John W. Coltrane experiences his spiritual rebirth in 1957; no more drugs.
1957 — Internal self-government was gained by the Eastern and Western regions of Nigeria.
1957 — Black Orpheus, a journal of African writing is established in Nigeria.
1957 — John Coltrane works with Thelonious Monk at the Five Spot in New York.
1958 — The U.S government returns Paul Robeson’s passport, his health is poor.
1958 — Addis Abeba became the registered office for the Economic Commission for Africa.
1958 — Chinua Achebe’s novel Things Fall Apart is published.
1958 — Paul Robeson’s autobiography Here I Stand is published.
1958 — The Book of Negro Folklore, edited by Arna Bontemps and Langston Hughes is published.
1959 — Internal self-government was gained by Northern Nigeria.
1959 — Berry Gordy establishes Motown Records in Detroit, Michigan.
1959 — Lorraine Hansberry’s play A Raisin in the Sun is produced and published.
1959 — Ruth Bowen establishes the Queen Booking Company, a talent agency in New York City.
1960 — Nigeria is free.
1960 — Ghana is declared a republic and Nkrumah becomes its first President on July 1st.
1960 — Congo becomes an independent nation.
1960 — South African police fire on demonstrators at Sharpeville; murdering 67.
1960 — Marion Barry founds the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).
1960 — John Coltrane wins both the general and critics polls of Down Beat magazine for tenor sax; wins critics poll for
combo and miscellaneous instrument (soprano sax).
1960 — Poor people in Ethiopia revolt in Sidamo.
1960 — A coup by General Mengistu Naway and his brother Garwane Naway fails in Ethiopia.
1961 — Led by Julius Nyerere, Tanganyika achieves independence from Britain.
1961 — A. Phillip Randolph march in Washington D.C.
1961 — Wilt Chamberlain scores 100 points in a single game to create an unbreakable record.
1961 — Bob Marley, Bunny Livingston, and Peter Tosh form a group called the Rudeboys.
1961 — Ossie Davis’s play Purlie Victorious is produced and published.
1962 — Rwanda and Burundi gain independence.
1962 — John Coltrane has a recording Session with Duke Ellington.
1963 — Under the leadership of Jomo Kenyatta, Kenya achieves independence from Britain.
1963 — Frantz Fanon publishes The Wretched of the Earth.
1963 — Medgar Evers murdered by Klansman in Mississippi (6/12).
1963 — Poor people in Ethiopia revolt in Bale (until 1970).
1963 — Nigeria became a Republic with Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe its first President (October 1st).
1963 — A black church is bombed in Birmingham, Alabama, killing four girls (9/15).
1963 — W.E.B. Dubois passes away.
1963 — March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom draws 250,000 demonstrators.
1963 — The Organization for African Unity is founded in the Ethiopian capital.
Queen Mother Moore forms the Reparations Committee of Descendants of U.S. Slaves.
1963 — Gordon Parks’ novel The Learning Tree is published.
1963 — Wole Soyinka’s plays The Lion & the Jewel and A Dance in the Forest are published.
1964 — Al-Hajj Malik Shabazz forms the Organization of Afro-American Unity.
1964 — John Coltrane records A Love Supreme, Part I, II, III, and IV.
1964 — Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. is awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace.
1964 — The Civil Rights Act abolishes segregation in public accommodations in the South.
1964 — Eight South African leaders, including Nelson Mandela are sentenced to life imprisonment.
1964 — Amiri Baraka’s play Dutchman is produced and published.
1965 — Many student demonstrations in the streets of Addis Ababa.
1965 — Al-Hajj Malik Shabazz is murdered by his own people in front of family (2/21 @ 3:10pm).
1965 — The Autobiography of Malcolm X is published.
1965 — Elijah Muhammad publishes Message to the Blackman in America.
1965 — Race riots in the Watts district of Los Angeles; over $225 million in property damage.
1965 — A white minority regime declares Rhodesia independent, civil war begins (until 1979).
1965 — The Voting Rights Act provides guarantees for black voting in the South.
1966 — The first of seven coups in Nigeria occurred in January (many leaders murdered).
1966 — While away visiting China, Kwame Nkrumah is overthrown on February 24th.
1966 — Bobby Seale & Huey Newton found the Black Panther Party in Oakland, California.
1967 — Eastern Nigeria claims independence as the Republic of Biafra; this leads to a civil war.
1967 — Black Power Conference in Newark, NJ.
1967 — John Coltrane opens The Olatunji Center of African Culture, 43 East 125th Street, Harlem on March 27th.
1967 — John William Coltrane dies in Huntington, Long Island on July 17, 1967.
1968 — Black Power Conference in Philadelphia, PA.
1968 — Poor people in Ethiopia revolt in Gojam.
1968 — Martin Luther King, Jr. is assassinated in Memphis, Tennessee; riots occur in 125 U.S. areas.
1969 — Fred Hampton is murdered in Chicago, IL.
1969 — Black Power Conference in Bermuda, W.I.
1969 — U.S. Supreme Court rules that school districts must end racial segregation at once.
1969 — Toni Morrison’s novel The Bluest Eye is published.
1970 — Poor people in Ethiopia revolt in Wolo.
1970 — Biafra was defeated in January 1970; the war takes one million Nigerian lives.
1970 — Congress on African People in Atlanta, GA.
1970 — Maya Angelou published I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings.
1971 — Ernest J. Gaines’s novel The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman is published.
1971 — Dr. Yosef A.A. ben-Jochannan publishes Africa Mother of Western Civilization.
1971 — George Jackson murdered (8/21).
1972 — Frank Wills, an African American security guard discovers the Watergate Break-in.
1972 — Wole Soyinka’s autobiography The Man Died: Prison Notes of Wole Soyinka is published.
1972 — On April 27th Kwame Nhrumah dies in Burcharest.
1973 — Ayi Kwei Armah published Two Thousand Seasons.
1973 — Emperor Haile Selasie is overthrown by a military coup on September 12th.
1974 — Ethiopian peasants revolt against their feudal exploiters.
1975 — Arthur Ashe wins the Wimbledon singles title.
1975 — Emperor Haile Selasie is killed in August and buried under one of his former palaces.
1975 — Another Nigerian coup, new leader Brigadier Murtala Muhammed.
1976 — Paul Robeson passes on January 23rd.
1976 — Negro History Week becomes Black History Month.
1976 — Abortive Nigerian coup, Brigadier Murtala Muhammed is assassinated.
1976 — Police fire on demonstrating students and school children in the Soweto, South Africa.
1976 — Alex Haley’s novel Roots: The Saga of an American Family is published.
1976 — Ntozake Shange’s play for colored girls who have considered suicide is produced.
1978 — National Black Consciousness Day (Zumbi Day) is established in Brazil on November 20th.
1978 — Muhammad Ali wins the world heavyweight boxing championship for a record third time.
1978 — James Alan McPherson receives a Pulitzer Prize for his short story collection Elbow Room.
1979 — Multi-party elections are held in Nigeria and Alhaji Shehu Shagari becomes President.
1980 — Freedom fighters destroy Rhodesia; The Republic of Zimbabwe is reestablished.
1980 — Robert Johnson establishes Black Entertainment Television with a $15,000 loan.
1983 — Guion S. Bluford, Jr. is the first African American astronaut in space.
1983 — Gloria Naylor wins an American Book Award for The Women of Brewster Place.
1983 — Alice Walker wins both an American Book Award and a Pulitzer Prize for The Color Purple.
1983 — President Shagari re-elected in Nigeria.
1983 — Another Nigerian military coup, Major-General Mohammadu Buhari becomes Head of State.
1984 — Oprah Winfrey accepts a job as host of A.M. Chicago, a morning show in the Windy City.
1984 — Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa receives the Nobel Peace Prize.
1984 — Amiri Baraka’s The Autobiography of LeRoi Jones is published
1984 — Rev. Jesse Jackson is the 1st African American to make a serious run for U.S. presidency.
1985 — Another Nigerian coup, new leader Major-General Ibrahim Babangida.
1985 — Sonia Sanchez receives an American Book Award for homegirls & handgrenades.
1986 — Wole Soyinka is awarded the Nobel Prize for literature.
1986 — Dr. Cheikh Anta Diop passes on February 7th.
1987 — Dr. Benjamin S. Carson is the first to successfully separate Siamese twins joined at the head.
1987 — Ivan Van Sertima pubishes They Came Before Columbus.
1987 — Frederick D. Gregory is the first person of African ancestry to command a space shuttle.
1987 — Rita Dove receives a Pulitzer Prize for her poetry collection Thomas and Beulah.
1987 — Dr. Molefi Kete Asante publishes The Afrocentric Idea.
1987 — Reginald Lewis buys Beatrice International Foods for just under $1 billion on August 6th.
1988 — Terry McMillan wins an American Book Award for her novel Mama.
1988 — Toni Morrison receives a Pulitzer Prize for her novel Beloved.
1989 — Bill White becomes the president of Major League Basaball’s National League.
1989 — Ronald H. Brown named Chairman of the Democratic National Committee.
1990 — South African F.W. de Klerk pledges to eliminate apartheid & releases Nelson Mandela.
1990 — Namibia becomes independent following a long struggle to end South African occupation.
1990 — Charles Johnson receives a National Book Award for his novel Middle Passage. 1990 — August Wilson wins a Pulitzer Prize for his play The Piano Lesson.
1990 — George Washington Carver & Percy Julian are admitted into National Inventor’s Hall of Fame.
1990 — L. Douglas Wilder of Virginia becomes the first African American elected governor in U.S. 1990 — “In Living Color” wins an Emmy for Outstanding Comedy Series.
1991 — Dr. Frances Cress Welsing publishes The Isis Papers, The Keys to the Colors.
1992 — Dr. Mae Jemison travels into space on the space shuttle Endeavor.
1992 — A race riot sweeps across Los Angeles following the Rodney King verdict.
1992 — Derek Walcott is awarded the Nobel Prize for literature.
1992 — Anthony T. Browder publishes Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization.
1993 — Madam Walker’s mansion is purchased by a black family (Harold and Helena Doley).
1993 — Multi-party elections in Nigeria were annulled by Babangida, who shortly after resigned.
1993 — In Nigeria’s seventh coup, General Sani Abacha assumes power.
1993 — Toni Morrison wins the Nobel Prize for literature.
1993 — Arthur Ashe’s autobiography Days of Grace: A Memoir is published.
1994 — Llaila O. Afrika publishes Nutricide — The Nutritional Destruction of the Black Race.
1994 — Nelson Mandela takes office as South Africa’s first black president.
1994 — Plane crash kills leaders of both Burundi and Rwanda, unleashing ethnic killing. 1995 — Over one million men of African ancestry gather in Washington D.C. for the Million Man March.
1996 — Nigeria wins the Gold Medal in 1996 Olympic Football (Soccer).
1997 — In January Kofi Annan of Ghana becomes the seventh secretary-general of the United Nations.
1997 — Tiger Woods wins The Masters; breaking several golf records in the process.
1997 — In May Laurent Kabila is declared president of the Democratic Republic of Congo (ex-Zaire).
1997 — The first made-in-Nigeria saloon car known as Z-600 launched in the eastern city of Owerri.
1997 — Over one million women of African ancestry gather in Philadelphia for Million Woman March.
1997 — Multi-party elections begin in Nigeria.
1997 — Ivorian Freedom Neruda & Nigerian Christine Anyanwu win International Press Freedom Prize.
1997 — Uganda becomes Africa’s major coffee producer with exports exceeding 4.2 million bags.
1998 — Madam Walker becomes the subject of the United States Postal Service commemorative stamps.
1998 — Five African nations compete in the World Cup (Nigeria, Cameroon, South Africa, Morocco and Tunisia).
1998 — Nigeria’s leader, General Sani Abacha dies of a heart attack.
1998 — Thousands of Africans are killed in Kenya and Tanzania from a bomb attack.
1999 – Malcolm X becomes the subject of the United States Postal Service Stamps.
July 24, 2009 at 12:18 am |
You are reproducing material that is and has been on my website for years. I am the original author of the timeline. Please favor me a response regarding why you have used my work and did not give me proper credit. Is this a case of plagarism…?
November 5, 2008 at 2:44 pm |
wow i truly want to help the few people on this messaging board, Some of it is true Dr. Harris has perverted the doctrine unto himself but there are a group of people that still teach the doctrine in it purity. The way the old man taught it and after reading this board i realized we are the only hope of the world.
November 5, 2008 at 4:09 pm |
The only hope we have is for those who have any COMMON SENSE to read as much as possible. Get a good understanding of HISTORY and CIVILIZATION. Then you will come to realize that all these “Modern Day” Religions are nothing more than “Copies” and “PLAGARIZATIONS” of what was here before….
That goes for The Catholics, The Muslims, The Baptist, Tha Buhdist, The Hebrews, The Mormons and any other Religion………..
November 5, 2008 at 7:45 pm |
I am a VERY Educated Strong Black Woman, and I have a sense of pride in that! I have worldy knowledge and spiritual knowledge. And I have enough COMMON SENSE to know that there is a supreme being. And that this supreme being repeats himself over and over and over again–HIS story, repeats itself. Dr. Kinley even said– if it dont repeat with me… I ain’t the one! There is a pattern here, and though this school was founded in 1931–this teaching has been around [simply because of the pattern of the universe] since the creation was born.
But this timeline seems a little one-sided, you left out 99.999% of the earth’s history!
Just to address what you responded:
You are concentrating too much on this physical realm, which is why you are all kinds of messed up about this thing. I don’t need to visit Israel—and I am fully aware of what they believe to be true. I know they disagree with the gospel of IDMR— our school has conducted three ecclesiastical peace missions, and I know that they received the message. Some of them agreed and some did not. And must I stress again, that you are stuck on this physical. Yes, Yahweh declared the Jews in Israel as his people—but as it says in Romans 1:19 & 20- “for the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and supernal nature; so that they are without excuse”. So these chosen people and their journey with the savior symbolize or represent the third of angels cast out of heaven into hell—aka the body of Satan in Earth. The journey that these people took symbolizes how Yahweh brought his chosen people out of darkness, out of bondage and slavery. Which would represent people who he chose to bring out of the world to hear his gospel—weather they came into class or not [being in class has nothing to do with receiving the holy spirit or being a son of Elohim]. And while these chosen people were in the wilderness, many began to question, doubt and loose belief in him [just as you are doing, and as I did, and as the rest of the world continues to do]—even after he parted the waters of the red sea, rained down manna for 40 years, fought their every battle, gave them water, and the list goes on and on. Even after all of that, they built a golden calf and continued to deny him. This represents the inhabitants of the earth ignoring their conscience (unless it is seared in ignorance) and hearts to what Yahweh is saying to us, and creating these erroneous doctrines and not diligently seeking him [do your research before you just go along with what your mother, preacher, rabbi, priest, etc. says.]. No one said it would be easy to deny what the whole world preaches—just as it was not easy for them out in the wilderness… but it will save you from eternal damnation. And when he brought those few over to the promise land [Canaan’s land]… that is when he pours out that Holy Spirit IN YOU! And that is greater than any gift any man could ever give! HALLELU-YAH!
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BIBLE DOES NOT GO FULLY INTO DEPTH ABOUT THE TIMELINE OF THE WORLD… but what you have to understand is: that—that entire timeline fits right into the creation [besides that evolution theory wedged in there]. Just because you don’t see it in the bible does not mean it never happened! There is not one “T” uncrossed and not one “I” left un-dotted! Not a one! Adam and Eve existed in the day of eternity by the way… you can’t date that! Not until Eve transgressed did they begin living in time.
There does not have to be physical evidence of Noah and the flood—even though there are bits and pieces. Yahweh is an awesome and powerful El—he knows just what to take and what to leave behind. I know what happened because he who caused it to be has given me understanding that you will never see, or anyone else for that matter, unless he gives it to you. A lot of you guys speak like God is limited! He is more powerful than you and I can even imagine! He can do ANYTHING! And yes, you are very wrong—but you will be better off with those things you believe than the Christian world, which is for sure!
Let’s remember—Yahweh operates on a totally different level than you and I. He is spirit and creator of all things seen and not seen. He may have done things that I cannot explain. I sure don’t have all the answers—but what I do know, I am confident and assured that it is right and true. When I say I have the holy spirit, I am not saying that I know all things—I am saying that he has given me understanding, a piece of himself~ which all of us have by the way, I am just aware of what he is doing in my life and in my day. I am him and he is me…. Its just in a very minute measure. If God is all in all—what else is there BUT him? Even Lucifer was declared a negative entity from his substance, because there is simply nothing else that is.
You cannot and never will be able to break my confidence down in this teaching. EVERYTHING that I have thrown into the face of IDMR, has truly been proven unto my satisfaction, which is the holy spirit.
Also, whoever started this blog: what is the Holy Ghost to you? Cause if it isn’t God—its Satan, those are the only “two” spirits in operation. This means, God has been getting into bodies since the foundation of the world.
And Kerred Sirom, what is your THEORY of the beginning of the creation? We can all now see that this earth was not built to last—it is disintegrating before our eyes! So it can’t possibly have always just been. Do you believe there is a spirit in a man… and if so, where does that spirit go when it leaves the body? Spirit is not natural and consequently it never dies—so where do you think the spirit goes? I am just curious to know.
**I would DIE for this teaching. Because I know where I am going and I know where my home is. It is irrefutable, you cannot disprove anything that it holds as TRUE and it is truly indestructible… because this teaching LIVES in and through me every waking moment, And I am proud to be called a son of Yahweh and be a possessor of the only true Holy Spirit. Regardless of what anyone says… on and off this website. If you think I will burn in hell… I pray for the day of the Universal Revelation when the truth is unraveled, and you can see me with my father. NO MAN can judge me—so Christians especially, practice what you preach. Keep throwing it at us people… its making us stronger and grow for the better. PEACE & LOVE in Yahshua the Messiah- he loves you and so do I.
November 5, 2008 at 8:46 pm |
Sister Candice:
I am not trying to judge you for you have the “Freedom Of choice” to believe in what you will…..So do I.
BUT……from having traveled around the globe and studyied the history of CIVILIZATION I have come to realize, should I say we have come to realize cause there are thousands of people who have come to the same realization, that the creator of all the universe from the “START” was not named Yahweh or Jehovah nor Jesus nor Khrisna, not Buhda or Alla.
And you just validated my point……You said the “Supreme Being Repeats itself over and over again”….
If you TRULY believe that then just “Saving the name Yashua” is not the only way you will see your CREATOR…..
Saving the name “Amen-Ra”, if he repaets himself like you just said will get you back to your creator, Saving the name “Alla” and “Jehovah” will get you back to your creator……Right or Wrong????
But I know the CREATOR does not change his name nor does he change his MIND……His mind is made from the beginning.
So the name he was known from the beginning, the religion that was taught from the beginning is the true teaching and name……..Like I said everything else we have today is “Man Made”………..
Peace to yuo my sister
November 5, 2008 at 10:21 pm |
This document is dated at least 5000 years before any modern day religion
Judgement of the Spirit
The ancient Egyptian Hall of Maat is where the judgment of the dead was performed in the afterlife. This was done by weighing one’s heart (conscience) against the feather of Maat (truth and justice).
Here we see Anubis leading the Dead to the scales of Maat. Anubis weights the heart against the feather to see if he is worthy of joining the ancient gods in the Fields of Reeds .
Ammut is also present; a demon is waiting to devour the Dead’s heart should he prove unworthy. Thoth stands to the right of the scales recording the results.
Having passed this test the Dead is now lead by Horus to meet the King of the dead, Osiris.
The throne of Osiris rests on a pool of water, from which a lotus flower is growing, upon the lotus stand The Four Sons of Horus Behind the throne stands Isis and her sister Nephthys.
Osiris, the king of the Underworld, under whom the blessed Dead hope to spend eternity in afterlife performs the final judgment of the Dead, to determine if the deceased was worthy to enter the realm of Osiris in the Fields of Reeds.
This stela can be found all along the Nile Valley and in the Valley of the Kings and Tombs. All this was written before the first Hebrew, Muslim, Christian or Greek.
November 9, 2008 at 1:54 am |
Can anyone why some of the IDMR and bent on worshipping Dr. Kinley instead of worshipping Yahshua the messiah.I visited a class and this really bothered me to no end.
November 12, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
Well, Kered Sirrom: I know that my words are not going to open your eyes to what I am saying… so, believe what you want & I will do the same. your “disoveries” are not things that I can put value in~ b/c those things ARE “man made”… and my trust is not in man but in Yahweh. I put my trust in Him that lives… and I know that it was him who wrote the bible to speak to his sons. So there is no need in “debating” because my mind’s made up. Love & Peace in Yahshua the messiah.
Ralph:
Ummm, where can I start…
I know exactly what u mean b/c I was bothered by the same thing for a while but Yahweh showed me that it was him in that body. So in fact, they are not worshipping the flesh [or that man] but the spirit in the man–who was yahshua the messiah. And while Yahweh was in that body–we called him Dr. Kinely~ we can put a face to Yahweh & it makes him, Yahweh, much much more concrete, real, percievable & visible in these physical minds [not the flesh--but what that spirit did in that flesh]. Don’t we say when you recieve of that spirit there is no more–YOU, right. so, if there is no more you [which was that satanic spirit]… who is it? I can answer that [lol]– Yahshua. Dr. Kinley was the fullness and most of us that do have the holy spirit do not have it in its fullness or any where near it for that matter! When Dr.Kinley is referred to as Yahweh in a body… or used interchangably, it hits home for many of us. Like: “wow, God was here… sitting right next to us”– “he was the one who set this school up and the one who was preaching and teaching”~ and you better believe he still is–these are his people and hes not going to just let them do “what they will”–hes still in charge! Dr. Al Joyner said it best [this inst verbatum]: when God is off in the sun, moon & stars its easy to just put him away when you don’t need him and call him when you do. When he is off in the heavens somewhere its easier for you to ignore him, and do what you want to do But when Yahweh has a face, and is right here in front of you–you’ve got to face the truth–literally. It forces you to face yourself and your God! When God is right in front of you… it puts that fear into your heart that makes you want to praise his name just to not end up in the lake of fire. When God [Yahweh] is right in front of you, speaking & doing… you will know that this is real and that he is real… you will know that if he overcame death, hell & the grave in one man Dr. H C Kinley & just steped right into him–he can do the same for you–HALLELUYAH! Yahshua the messiah is being worshiped weather you say Dr. Kinley, John or Paul! They were all vessels Yahweh chose to use—and if he was in that body–that was his name. just think about it. Dr. Kinley said it himself :”I am Yahweh and so are you, the difference is, I am conscious of it and you’re not”. Think about it! God is the supreme being… ruling over EVERYTHING–that means he owns everything. Why/How? well, that would have to be because he created it… and if he is the supreme being and the only one who really exists, it would have had to come from him. So– when it is put simply, everything is Yahweh and Yahweh is everything–including you and I. There will be many to reject this… but think of Matthew the 25th chapter after the two parables were given and he mentions seperating the sheep on the right [righteous] from the goat on the left [unrighteous] and he goes into explaining WHY THE SON[S] OF PERDITION DID NOT INHERIT THE KNIGDOM:
25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, INASMUCH AS YE DID IT NOT TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE, YE DID IT NOT TO ME.
This last verse right here says it for you~ Yahweh is everything–including you and me… so be kind to your brother and sister~they are of him! Ask him to give you the heart to be kind and the discretion to know when not to be decieved–if ye ask, ye shall recieve! I hope you understand a little more clearly what exactly is going on here–and that they [we] are not worshipping a man– but the spirit in him, which IS Yahshua the messiah!
If you still are having a hard time…pray. Pray in sincerity, and he WILL HEAR YOU AND WILL HELP YOU! Pray for understanding… and pray that he keep you [weather in or out of class] and guide you in the right direction so you will be SURE that you HAVE RECIEVED ETERNAL LIFE OR YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH! Love in Yahweh!
<3 Candice <3
November 12, 2008 at 3:39 pm |
Also, Ralph~ We have just come to realize in IDMR that when Yahshua was walking on the earthplane back in the bible days that they did not call him Yahshua~ they referred to him as EmmanuEL [the name that Joseph and mary named him], Rabbai, master, etc. Just take some time to go back into the bible and look at the instances when people were adressing him. Never do any of them call him Yahshua~ they didn’t know his name until after pentecost when the Holy Spirit was poured out on a permanent basis. The people/vessels that Yahweh used to write the bible before pentecost—the holy spirit was in them for that time [not permanenlty]–which is why it was written: “And, Yahweh said”. Never will you find [before Yahshua died on the cross and before he gave his holy spirit out on a permanent basis] the people referring to him as Yahshua. We are privilaged to know this information.
November 12, 2008 at 6:56 pm |
keep up the good work all of you ,eye have not seen and it ok: to the will of yahwah
November 12, 2008 at 9:39 pm |
Why is it not enough for Idmr to except Yahshua the messiah as your savior.He is the one who died on the cross not Dr.Kinley.If I follow your logic then I should view all the prophets as my saviors.If you have listen to any of the tapes or manuscrips of Dr. Kinley he says that he is not the saviour.I found a good site called A Pattern of Everything.org they have a better understanding of thr truth.
November 15, 2008 at 3:31 pm |
Here is a partial list of what Dr Kinley had to say regarding the Name(s) of salvation:
that’s what you come down here for is to know something about Yahweh our Father, not old Henry C.
……From Lecture: Ever presence of Yahweh , pg 23, paragraph 4
Now I said there’s no salvation in the Honorable Elijah Mohammed! There is no salvation in Pope Paul! See and there is no salvation in Henry Clifford Kinley! And there’s no salvation in your pastor.
……From Lecture: Only name for Salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 5, Paragraph 22
Now you can’t go by the honorable Elijah Mohammed. You cannot go by Bahula. You can not go by Paul. You can not go by Peter and you can not go by Henry C. Kinley.
……From Lecture: Living the life; Love of Yahweh, page 4, Paragraph 1
DR KINLEY: God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Henry C. Kinley
STUDENT BODY: No
DR KINLEY: You see how stupid we are. That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
……From Lecture: Living the life; Love of Yahweh, page 7, paragraph 10
belonging to the Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research, that’s not gonna do it. You have to be in the kingdom of Yahshua. Now that’ll get it. Somebody says, ‘Well I’m following Kinley,” ? that’s not gonna get it.
……From Lecture: Living the life; Love of Yahweh, page 18, paragraph 7
Henry C. Kinley is not the teacher. Moses is not the teacher. Jeremiah was not the teacher. Paul was not the teacher. Comforter [is the teacher]
……From Lecture: Mystery of Iniquity, pg 13, paragraph 6
I want you to know that you cannot be saved in the name of Henry Clifford Kinley.
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 2, paragraph 1
Now I said there’s no salvation in the Honorable Elijah Mohammed! There is no salvation in Pope Paul! See and there is no salvation in Henry Clifford Kinley! And there’s no salvation in your pastor.
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 5, paragraph 22
Elijah Mohammed or Henry C. Kinley, we’re not the teacher! Freddy Allen and Bishop Williams, they’re not the teacher. ? I’m the little shot. ? Yahshua the Messiah is the teacher.
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 12, paragraph 7
The Honorable Elijah Mohammed or Henry C. Kinley, they’re not the teacher
……From Lecture: Truth through Dr Kinley?s vision, page 6, paragraph 1
Grace is not a work; Grace is an unmerited favor. You can’t merit salvation by something you do other than believe on Yahshua the Messiah.
……From Lecture: Carnal Ordinances, Page 3, paragraph 7
I have come in his name. I have said many times to you that it was Yahshua the Messiah that speaks through this body.
……From Lecture: 69 Convention; Discernment, Earthly name, Heavenly Name, pg 3, paragraph 1
I’ve never tried to preach nothing in, in the name of Henry C. Kinley.
……From Lecture: 69 Convention; Discernment, Earthly name, Heavenly Name, pg 3, paragraph 11
Yahweh is all in all. That’s all there is. Elohim is Yahweh, title for Him in shape and form, incorporeal too. And Yahshua is the name of Him manifested in the flesh; that’s all there is.
……From Lecture: Explanation of the Godhead, pg 15, paragraph 1
THE TRUE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM CAN ONLY BE PREACHED BY USING THE TRUE NAME OF YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH
……From Lecture: Gospel must be preached before the end comes [Pamphlet]
……See 9th aim
……See Acts 4:10-12
……See Ez 33:31
Justus Kristus is a Hindu idol, sun God, a Greek sun god, now that’s who Jesus Christ is. Now look you, don’t you start sassing me. His name is Yahshua the Messiah not Jesus Christ and there’s no other name given under heaven whereby man can be saved, saving the name of Yahshua the Messiah. Now did I get it over clear to you?
……From Lecture: Mystery of Iniquity cries Peace and Miscalculates His Coming, page 18, paragraph 1
Reader: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, which the Father will send in My Name?
Dr. Kinley: Now you see that? HE AIN?T SENDING HIM IN HENRY CLIFFORD?S NAME! He ain?t sending Him in Elijah Mohammed, He ain?t sending Him in the name of John the Baptist. He?s not sending Him in the name of Jeremiah, Ezekiel and none of the rest of ?em. He?s not sending Him in the name of Moses. And you can?t be (we just read over there in Acts of Apostles) you can?t be saved in no other name! LOOK FORWARD TO BEING LOST in the name of the honorable Elijah Mohammed! Huh?
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 11, paragraph 4
Now, if it is the same spirit in those folks that say “You can only be saved in the name of Dr. Kinley”, why has the story changed?
Ann, I hope this gets you started.
I know that this blasphemy is spreading like wildfire, but arm yourself and you can survive the storm.
November 17, 2008 at 4:57 pm |
CANDACE: A mind is a terrible thing to waste and your mind has been WASTED…….The bible says there will be many FALSE prophets that will come in the name of the creator……
But in the Book of coming forth by night and Day…………this book which has been Plagarized by those who follow the modern day bible teachings, say nothing of the sort…..WHY????
The book of “Coming Forth By Day and Night” is the source of understanding the Afterlife/Spirit Life…………If you CANDACE beleive that a person will only come to understand that this human flesh has a Spirit in it only by attending IDMR then you my SISTER are SADLY DIS-ILLUSIONED……..
November 18, 2008 at 1:46 am |
Hum – Let me see if I can sum up briefly what I have heard taught in the IDMR mainstream…
Dr. Kinley is the “new name” for Yahshua…or rather Dr. Kinley allowed us to call him (Yahshua) Dr. Kinley. Yahshua in you has been replaced repeatedly by Dr. Kinley in you both on the floor and in song. It is taught that Dr. Kinley was a greater manifestation of Yahweh-Elohim than the other manifestations…even than Yahshua the Messiah. That is measured and witnessed by the amount of “literature” we have available from each manifestation. Example… we know more about what Yahshua said than Joshua; we have more books in the Bible written by Paul than red letters said by Yahshua, and finally we have even more transcripts and understanding received by Dr. Kinley.
Yahshua (now referred to as Dr. Kinley) birthed sons at penticost (that had been in gestation in him since the foundation) Those birthed sons are what enters into you as your new soul or inner man once those demonic souls (the created creatures-the demons cast out of heaven) are cast out.
The birthed sons are the only souls being saved, in fact they were never lost. They are “saved” meaning that the birthed sons are and always have been set-aside from the beginning as the only thing Yahshua will keep. There is nothing created that will be saved in Yahshua.
There is no such thing in reality as redemption, nothing saved from death, no resurrection from the dead, no atonement.
The true YOU (the negative angel or soul cast down from heaven) must be cast out of temporary YOU (the physical body) and be replaced by new true YOU (the new birthed son) in order for YOU (?????) to be saved.
Now don’t expect me to make sense out of this. If it made sense, we would be teaching it.
November 18, 2008 at 1:58 am |
Concerning This Gospel: Isiah 28 “For precept MUST be upon percept. Line Upon line. Line upon line. Here a little there a little.” This scripture has been ringing in my head over and over lately.
We have new people coming in our school often. And the Holy Spirit in me keeps telling me they deserve the same treatment and food that was given to me from the beginning. The true teaching from the simplest to the profound Never gets old or boring. Everyday we live Blood Water and Spirit and Death Burial and Resurrection over and over. If we deny Yahshua he will deny US. It is a great and fearful thing to fall into the hands of the LIVING ELOHIM.
There are still physical schools in the United States that uphold the Original Teachings of Yahshua as taught by Dr. Henry C, Kinley. This site is proof of that. Anyone that uses this site does not have to wonder within their minds if and where the truth is being taught. There are not only students but true Ministers right at your fingertips. All you have to do is ask.
Once again this site is a Gift to us. It is for us to use it but never take advantage of.
I am not ashamed of the Gospel. It is the POWER ONTO SALVATION TO EVERYONE THAT BELIEVEs. But some will not believe
November 18, 2008 at 7:18 pm |
GEEZ………It amazes me when people put their “BELIEF in a RELIGION” above the next persons BELIEF………
Praising Yahweh is no better than praising ALLAH
Praising Yehovah is no better than praising BUDAH
Praising krishna is no better than praising JESUS
My point is this………..And I say it agian……..BEFORE THERE WAS ANY MODERN DAY RELIGION
The creator was already being worshipped….
Before ISRAEL became into EXISTANCE…….civilization was already worshipping a CREATOR thousands of years before………
Yahweh is a HEBREW name if I’m not mistaken……..So then if that is CORRECT which it is……….CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW CAN YAHWEH BE THE CREATOR OF ALL?????
If he changed his name then….he must have changed his RELIGION also because there were NO HEBREWS alive “PRIOR to 2000 b.c.e
So if he made these changes then you people are being lead by a “HUGE LIE”……
Its MAN that changes these things and its by men who made up these MODERN DAY RELIGIONS………….
There is an OLD saying…..I am sure some of you have heard it and it goes like this……..What was in the beginning will come back at the end.
What was “FIRST” meaning the first religion that was here will come back around……….Its written in the Bible that you read…
Those that are “First shall be LAST, and then it will come back around….
Do you people realize that the year we are in NOW was already here???? 2008 a.d was here in 2008 b.c
Time revolves in a circle……….all the years that have pass and to come have already existed….
I gave you a Timeline a few post back…….and there is no disputing that…..
But you can go right ahead and think you have something special with these modern day religions…….I assure you that when you die there will not be any YAHWEH, ALLAH, BUDAH, JESUS, KRISHNA or YEHOVAH there waiting to greet you……
I am not judging anyone………The mistake people make is when they limit themselves…….Its ok to ask questions……Its ok to read different books and get a understanding of civilization…
Because if you have NO KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY then you are living in Vacuum.
PEACE TO YOU ALL
November 18, 2008 at 10:51 pm |
http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/history/periods.html
November 19, 2008 at 10:42 pm |
“Did it ever occur to you that we remain ignorant of attested truth and scientifically proven facts, most particularly because we fail to make a personal, detailed investigation of important matters? This failure to investigate positively retards the progress of our understanding and knowledge in every vocation and phase of life, both physical and spiritual. Sometimes stopping and thinking for a moment over the essential things of life eliminates many regretted years of poverty, sickness, humiliation, embarrassment, sometimes death and destruction. Therefore, we should learn to pause and try to think intelligently before we finally conclude affirmatively or negatively. We should do this before an ultimatum or final decision is rendered on any secular subject. The majority of us are, to some extent, guilty of this negligence.
Dr. Henry Clifford Kinley”
Sometimes people don’t really look at things with an open heart and mind but it’s not your fault it’s because Yahweh Elohim hasn’t saw it fit to do it for you. No one at any IDMR branch school is worshiping Dr. Kinley as being a physical man but worshiping that spirit in him as being Yahshua the Messiah. Instead of calling him Yahshua the Messiah he is allowing us to us the name Dr. Kinley because the is the body that he came down in to usher in the close of this physical age. He is just allowing us to continue to call ourselves by our fleshly names just like when he poured his spirit out into or got into the bodies of Adam, Saul/Paul, Emanuel, Joshua, and also when he got into you and me or as he will do as he has promised to do. But we must know that his spirit resides in us there for you still go by your everyday physical name but you spiritually know that you are a son of Yahweh and that he is you.
I have taken many things for granted in my time and being from New Orleans Yahweh took a lot from me physically by way of hurricane Katrina but I am blessed to say that I would go through it again anytime he sees fit because he took away everything physically I held dear to me but gave me eternal life and I am ever so happy that he saw fit to let me see him how he really is and actually exist because judging from most of the comments I see on here most people are still looking at everything from a physical stand point and not focusing on the spiritual side of it. We seem to want to through out how much we traveled and how much education we have but were focusing on the wrong kind of knowledge. I’m also am a strong black college educated young woman and I know that when it comes down to my salvation all the physical knowledge in the world don’t mean nothing because he is spiritual and that’s the kind of knowledge I need and he has and continues to give me. I would like to thank him for everyday that he continues to keep me in this hell on earth so that I may continue to learn more of him and his purpose pattern and plan and I may continue to give him all the glory and praise. I for one just want to thank and praise my heavenly father for be all in all and having mercy on me not to purpose for me to inhabit the lake of fire. All praises be to Yahweh. HALLELU-YAH
November 20, 2008 at 12:04 am |
One thing I find VERY ODD with those that belong to the IDMR…….If nothing on this EARTH matter…..such as a car, a job, money, a degree, clothing, a house…..If neither of these things matter to you then why do you people still work? Why are your members buying homes and rental property? Why are your members attending school? Why are your members trying to open up businesses?
We do not worship material things…..but we know that people “NEED” cars, people “NEED” a home, people “NEED” money to take care of their children and themselves……
Aren’t you people “HYPOCRITS” buy having these things that you really dont “NEED”?……If you do not need it then give it to someone who will “APPRECIATE” that car or that home or that job……
This is the very thing that you people must realize…….you come to class and get on the floor and talk about you do not need this or that……then you walk right out of class…….get into your “LEXUS” or “BENZ” then go to your “HOME that you do not need………
The creator made it possible for you to have a healthy mind and body, he made it possible for you to have a good paying job so you can provide for your children, he made it possible for you to have that home and not be homeless……….
THE CREATOR MADE EVERYTHING……AND SINCE HE MADE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO GIVE HIM THANKS FOR WHATEVER YOU HAVE……….
You people are playing with fire when you denounce what the CREATOR has made and what he has provided for you……….
WAKEUP
December 4, 2008 at 1:44 am |
One guy said on here that the teaching is to complicated to learn well i’m hear to say i’ve be to class my whole life and im 14 and the reason u dont understand it is because Yahweh has not givin you the understanding to learn, the only way you can get it is by coming to class and receiving
the holy spirit. Kered Sirrom and this goes for all of you if you have any questions come down and visit one of or classes we would be happy to answer.
Peace and love in Yahshua,
anonymous
December 4, 2008 at 3:48 pm |
I usually do not reply to an anonymous post especially to someone claiming to be 14 years old. You must be ashamed of what you believe in or you have doubts about it.
My question to you 14 year old? Since you claim Yahweh as your creator and since he led your people from bondage who “Supposedly” built the Pyramids Please tell me the Exact Diameter of those Pyramids that your Hebrew ancestors built??????? If you are going to build something you must have been given the “Schematic/Blueprint” of that which you are going to build.
Like I said before. The name Yahweh has nothing to do with being SAVED…….The name Yehovah, Yashua, Buhda, Alla, Krishna, Jesus and any other name that came about “AFTER” the 18th Dyanstic Era of Kemet has nothing to with you as a person being SAVED…….
I used to attend these classes for a few months. I stopped because I KNEW what was being taught had nothing to do with my SPIRIT going home to the CREATOR……
You all continue to follow Yahweh. JUST REMEMBER: that holy name bible and whatever modern day bible you read will not tell you the TRUTH….
The Talmud, The Dead Sea Scrolls will not tell you the truth……..
BECAUSE: All these GODS whom I have mentioned did not exist when Kemet was being Unified. This unification started around 5000b.c.e
If you can prove me wrong then come to my class and show US…….
December 5, 2008 at 4:23 am |
American College dictionary:
Cult: a particular system of religious worship, with reference to it rites and ceremonies. 2. an instance of an almost religious veneration for a person or thing 3. a group having an exclusive sacred ideology and an a series of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
First of all (IDMR) is a school and is not a church neither is it affiliated with any other organization. It’s a scientific research organization to show proof of the existence of Yahweh our Elohim and Yahshua the messiah whom the world calls The Lord God and JESUES Christ.
If anyone has ever had a fifth grade education you know that you do not put the word (the) in front of a proper name. You don’t say the John or the Mike. You would say the Lord the God. Because Lord and God are not names they are titles. I Cor 8:5 says, “For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)”. Now Jesus is a name but it was not the name of the savoir that walk the earth over 2000 years ago. The savior was a Jew (Hebrew) and Hebrews named their children Hebrew or Jewish Names. Yahshua means Yahweh is salvation. The bible was written in Hebrew first and translates in Greek, Latin and then in 1611 King James wrote his version. If you took the time and look up the name Jesus and found the etymology (Meaning derivation of a word). Yahshua is an transliteration or original Hebrew or Aramaic.
Now Yahweh is the the name that Moses receives at the mount. He is author of the first five books of the bible and the first to be given the name of Yahweh Exodus 3:14.
Before that they only know Yahweh by the name of El Shaddi (Almighty Provider) and was told to take that name and a rod down to Egpty and to tell Pharaoh to let his people go so they the Hebrew could serve him in the wildest of Saini.
Also, one thing you did not say about the founder of the IDMR He said, “Don’t take my word for it but make me prove it to you are satisfy.”
In order to have any understanding or to say something is not a fact show proof.
Please do your research on the name….
December 5, 2008 at 7:14 pm |
hello everyone, i would first like to state that the truth needs no defence. hopefully everyone will examine whatever evidence is put in front of them and make a conscience choice whether or not they believe it. we tend to forget the savior said in the bible he chose us, and that we didn’t choose him. the bible also says he chose our delusions too. Candace and others be carefull on blogs like this. we don’t have any need to defend Dr. Kinley, Dr. Harris or anyone else preaching the truth. Just like Yahweh told Moses concerning Aaron and Miriam, they are speaking against me not you Moses. and Yahweh himself answered the matter. I don’t like it one bit being called a cult, we know we don’t have any secret ceremonies. we know we don’t worship a man. we know the IDMR isn’t the kingdom. we know most of the post on this website don’t come close to accurately depicting truly what is taught at the IDMR. so should we argue with everyone else, and try to prove we’re right? Ofcourse not, we simply present the truth out of love and let Yahweh decide who will hear and who won’t. This school has been on three peace missions around the world and we’ve shared with the world this vision recieved by Dr. Kinley. So as far as i’m concerned, i’m more concerned with internal public relations than i am external at this point. And to Ms. Ayana S. Says. I’m sorry to hear about your mother. But please know that Dr. Kinley never taught any us to neglect our family or let anyone take advantage of us. Her issuses aren’t a result of this great gospel but i hope you still continue to love her and hopefully one day she will see the light and then you will be able to see through her the glorious effect the gospel can have on those who truly believe.
December 8, 2008 at 4:40 am |
Well, thanks for the amusement and to the few who were truly concerned. She has written us off completely since I asked her not to push her religious beliefs on my toddlers.
I just don’t want this to ruin my new family like it did my last one. Again she has made her choice and again, her blood isn’t who she chooses to be in her life. I am committed to be the opposite.
As for Ms. Candace Lane, I got a bit confused as to whom you were addressing throughout your entry. It looked like some was towards me but the rest was towards others.
I don’t need to quote scriptures to say how I feel and what my experience has been. I read the Bible (King James) for life lessons and mantras to help me make it through the day. Sounds like if I was concerned with pleasing you, I would have to read your Holy Name Bible which brings me to the point that there are many Bible remixes in this world for a reason. I am not interested in disproving anyone’s religion and I’m offended at being called a blasphemer but opinions are like assholes and everyone has them. This is America.
My brother and sister and I have recently talked amongst ourselves about others in class and we do see that our “mother” has an extreme issue. As for loving her, if you knew her before you would see that she isn’t in that body so there’s nothing to love.
I’m not some little girl who is pouting in the corner, I happen to be grown. I sat in class for 3 years of my teenage life and I decided it wasn’t for me. My little brother put it best explaining that everyone needs something in this world to make themselves feel good and for some, that’s religion. I guess our mom didn’t like herself and when a man she wanted told her she had to be in class, she did it. Trust me, she IS a believer! She has bet her whole family on this doctrine!
The best thing for me that has come out of this is that I am a strong and independent woman. No human being walking this earth (in the flesh) rules me and they never will.
Again thank you those who had kind words about our loss. I recently got married (congrats to me) and someone else’s mother was there for me so I was ok.
December 8, 2008 at 5:16 am |
…and by the way, if I’m ignorant of anything, it’s of finding a mother in a Christian church who doesn’t have any pictures of her children up anymore because she has replaced them all with Dr. Kinley’s pictures.
My initial response was written as I cried my eyes out that night waiting for my mother to come home. You, my dear Ms. Lane are ignorant of what that feels like. I can look in the Quran and any version of the Bible you want and find that the way she acts isn’t right but obviously I don’t need to! Can you give me a scripture telling me what I should do? If you are upset, you need to talk to your brethren about how they are depicting your almighty class. That’s the reason I wrote. We want help.
I am knocking on 30 years old my dear and I happen to be educated as well. I even thought I loved class at one time and like you, my heart was enflamed when I had to talk to unbelievers. So I DO know something about class. If you truly believed that Yahweh has already chosen his children, you wouldn’t get upset because you know that his will prevails. Also, nobody is promised tomorrow and therefore anyone’s world can end anyday. I never said that the world wouldn’t end, I simply don’t feel like she should not be taking care of herself or putting her job in danger while she is counting down the days. Are you going to take her in when she loses her job? Will your class? Still, no need to waste time even typing. You weren’t asking me, you were telling me how I felt. You are wrong.
Mr. Tim, I logged on to this site tonite because I was thinking about my mom (I’m supposed to get up for work in 3 hours). I miss her and can’t even talk to her. I keep thinking that anyday now she’s going to be gone and she will leave this Earth with us still not talking. Please put it out in class to start doing right. She will only do anything that is heard in class. I know she listens to Burbank Mitchell (if he’s still around). Just PLEASE get someone who is like you to visit her class. I am not trying to compete or get her out of the IDMR I just want her to be a mother and a grandmother sometimes. I guess I do still love her.
December 8, 2008 at 3:46 pm |
Mrs. A. S.,
I’m truly sorry for the things your mother has put you through. I can tell you truly love your mother and i’m sorry she doesn’t seem to realize that believing in Yahshua the Messiah doesn’t mean you have isolate your family that isn’t in class. I know people that have spouses that aren’t in class and they get along just fine. I know people that have children that aren’t in class and they’re at every graduation, family function, and holiday with their family. I don’t know if i know your mother or not. But if I ever run across her I promise i’d do my very best to encourage her to reach our to her family because wether she knows it or not, Yahweh is going to hold us accountable for what we do in these physical bodies, and if we are to be witnesses of the heavenly family, then that should be demonstrated thru the physical. Congrats on your new marriage and know that even thou your relationship with your mother has been strained because of her misunderstanding of what this teaching is all about, doesn’t mean that one day she won’t come into a more perfect understanding and then not only will you get your mother back but she’ll have a light in her that will be a source of strength, stability, and love that will eluminate through your entire family like it has my family. The things i’ve come to understand have not only been a source of strength for my family that comes to class but also a source of strength and love for those who don’t. I had hoped that you visted this blog again. Because i wans’t interested in any of the comments from those who called themselves shooting down this great gospel neither am i interested in trying to debate its merits. But whenever i see someone who has a genuine problem, without guile, malice, or prejudice, thats the one i want to reach out to. I know advice is rarely asked for but often given, but if you are open to any please try this. Write your mother a letter and try not to blame her for what she has done or isn’t doing but tell her about the things she has done that you appreciated and miss about her. Don’t tell her how hurt you are because that may put her on the defensive. I’m hoping that in her conscience the instinctive love she has for her offspring may overcome any misconceptions she has about knowing her creator. Love overcomes a multitude of sins. My heart, and my prayers are with both of you. Peace in Yahshua
December 8, 2008 at 3:52 pm |
Ayana S.
I sympathize with you. I ‘m not tryig to tell anyone what to believe. You did the right thing by not attending anymore of those classes. If the members of IDMR truly believe in scripture then they should know the scripture that says:
Do Not Add Nothing To it and Do Not Take Anything From It.
Dr. Kinley tried to rewrite the bible in his book called Yahweh-Elohim. What Blasphemy.
If it did not feel right to you Ayana do not feel guilty. You were moved away from it for a reason.
PEACE…….
December 10, 2008 at 12:30 am |
There is a lot of things this group don’t understand about the bible like the Word of God not being the bible AND The list can go on and on a true believer must believe in the resurrection of the Messiah/Christ………………….. and they don’t, so God please have mercy on them Cause Kinley has took them just where he is and that’s sad see his is their real messiah and he is still in the grave………… alone!
If the body was not raised, then what is? Remember what is dead is raised. Where is his body? Is it still in the grave if it was not raised? Is there such a thing as a spirit resurrection? Of course not. But IDMR agrees with the Jehovah’s Witness cult that he was not raised physically.
Let Scripture answer their own position. Matt 27:52-53: “and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection, they went into the holy city and were seen by many.”
In Luke 24:39 Jesus said “I am not a spirit but I have FLESH and bones. He had the same scars in His hands and feet proving he did indeed raise His body from the grave (John 2:19-22). The word for Flesh is the same word that John uses “and the word became FLESH.” (sarki in Greek). Jesus’ grave was empty. What IDMR is teaching is that Jesus said instead “I am a spirit but I have not flesh and bones.” This they twist to their own destruction, as it destroys the very Gospel that can save them. For if there is no physical resurrection, there is no resurrection at all.
Just as Job prophesied “though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh I shall see God.” (Job.19:25-27) The resurrection has always been the hope of the Jews. They come to this conclusion because of the bent on the spiritual only and disregard any physical ordinances.
In Hosea 13:14: “I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death. “It is the body that dies and goes in the grave, it is the body that is raised that makes it a resurrection.
Acts 26:22-23: “Therefore, having obtained help from God, to this day I stand, witnessing both to small and great, saying no other things than those which the prophets and Moses said would come–”that the Christ would suffer, that He would be the first to rise from the dead,”
I have a few family members in this group, and all i can say and do is pray for them,In the name of Jesus Christ my savior that is the sweetest name i know!
December 11, 2008 at 11:12 pm |
To all of you that are on the pro side of the I.D.M.R. and class, good for you not to be forsaken by Yahweh’s love for us. I live in an area where there is no class and I miss the lectures in my Syracuse class by Dean Ric T. I have strong belief in the I.D.M.R. anyone that was CHOSEN for this teaching are the fortunate ones, and we know who we are, with great and divine guidance from Yahweh through his son Yahshua. You have to be invited by Yahweh through his mercy to get the divine truth. Its been given to me and I ‘m ever so thankful.
( DEVINE, for those that don’t understand, Dr. Kinley taught divinely. He was given a DIVINE vision by Yahweh Elohim allowing us to be in the Kingdom of Yahshua the Messiah … It seems this part has been left out. Clear your ignorance and know what Doc taught before you go spouting at the mouth.)
Thankfully, Dr. Kinley went on a mission to see the Pope while I was still in Catholic grade school and, I was taught the TRUE names, Yahweh, Elohim and Yahshua in my last year of religious instructions class at St. Rose in No. Syracuse, N. Y.. See, Doc told the Pope the Catholic Church is teaching a lie. The devil has to shown to himself.
Go to class if you dare,…. Find the truth. Hope you can grasp the concepts and precepts. That’s what Doc taught. “Don’t believe me or any man.” Check it for yourself. A man can lie to you. DIVNE intervention is the key here. Who else can say that they were taught divinely ? Mercy is what saves you and Yahweh is the mercy. Yahshua is the salvation. He came in his fathers name. Yahweh Yahshua. The first part of the name. Not as we are brought in.We come in our fathers last name,in America or anywhere else. People didn’t have last names back in the Hebrew religion. They came in they ‘re fathers name.
Sorry to anyone that calls the Institute a cult. You are missing out. If what you believe is ‘nt divinely given, there is no truth in it. Search your belief for the truth and life, light, sunshine. Something that is real…… Not darkness. Satan is the darkness of this world fouling up the great teachings of Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua.
Yahweh Elohim chose, and gave Dr. Kinley a DIVINE vision. Just as Moses, John on the Isle of Patmos, and everyone in between were given divine visions. Read your bible about the others that were given divine instructions.Yahweh Elohim is not a man. He IS spirit. Someone in the flesh had to be instructed how to show us what he wants taught. That’s what Doc told us ” Forget the man I am. ” It could have been anyone. Moses was just tending sheep, ….Remember…. Get your facts straight on Doctor Kinley before you down who and what he was. Yes there is corruption in everything today. Even those that taught me, preached that corruption would come even into the I.D.M.R. They were right, and they ‘re with the split teaching the lie and following the perverse way that Dr. Kinley didn’t teach. Dr. Kinley said there would be a great divide and there is. Satan is everywhere. He has the rest of the world, he wants us all, just as Yahweh who loves us, wants all his own to come back to him in spirit, truth, and life, like his Son…. Yahshua…. Satan can’t have me.
Peace and Love in Yahshua the Messiah
December 12, 2008 at 12:50 am |
The tv broadcasts were so interesting, once I did go to a lecture in San Diego. A long time ago I took the class by mail, but I see the official IDMR website phased that out last October. I really loved the tv lectures.
From everything I learned about IDMR, I believe it.
December 12, 2008 at 12:53 am |
All of the mail order classes that I took had questions ABOUT the Bible, and the homework was to look up the verses and study them, mail back the answers. Someone graded them and mailed them back to me. It was such a good thing.
I would be happy to post the questions here so the people who are curious could learn what IDMR teaches. I have all ten lessons in a binder, with my answers and the corrections. I bought pamphlets and literature from the website a long time ago.
Does anyone want me to post Lesson One?
December 12, 2008 at 4:14 pm |
You know you in trouble when your EYES and HEART are so closed not open to read beyond what is taught in the BIBLE. I can point out hundreds of LIES and DECEPTION in the HOLY NAME BIBLE from the OLD TESTAMENT on up to the NEW TESTAMENT. But I already proven my case but I have one last question????
When CAIN was BANISHED from the garden. Did he or did he not went on to marry a women?????
If so, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE AN ACCURATE EXPLANATION AS TO WERE DID THIS WOMEN COME FROM SINCE THEIR IS NO OTHER MENTION OF ANY OTHER PEOPLE BEING AROUND WHEN ADAM/EVE WAS MADE????
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
December 16, 2008 at 1:26 pm |
Class is the best thing I have ever been to.I was born amd raised in class and nothing you say or anybody out there can tell me that its not the truth.If you are so caught up on if we update our website you miss the whole point.Yahweh is real and its manifisted everyday.
December 17, 2008 at 4:35 am |
First of all you must know that Moses wrote the first five books of the bible From Genesis to Deuteronomy. The book of Genesis was taken out of the book Exodus. Moses is having a Vision on mount Sinai of the creation of which Yahweh has give him.
Genesis chapter 5: And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters.
So Yahweh made Adam from the dust of the ground and Eve was take from Adam and if you do a researcher Scientists today will say that all mankind can be trance to one man and one woman. So Cain married a Daughter of Adam and Eve.
And just to add with a little more information about the last line of your state “Peace in the name of Amen-Ra”
[syn: Amen-Ra, Amon-Ra]
sun god; supreme god of the universe in whom Amen and Ra
were combined; principal deity during Theban supremacy
Amen, Amon
a primeval personification of air and breath; worshipped
especially at Thebes [syn: Amen, Amon]
Ra
ancient hawk-headed Egyptian sun god; a universal creator
Your creator is spirit he is all and all. I dont worship a beast a thing or receive blessing of thanksgiving by a sungod with a hawk-headed beast.
Yahweh your Elohim though his Son Yahshua who is the savior.
December 17, 2008 at 3:27 pm |
Edrina:
You still have yet to answer my question. Where in the BIBLE it says that their were people here before Adam/Eve? If that women whom CAIN married came from Adam/Eve why was it not mentioned? And If that is so then CAIN married his SISTER……And the same BIBLE you quote from teaches against INCEST……..
As to your reference about the SUPREME CREATOR “Amen-Ra”, whom was praised before any HEBREW was born. If you know anything about the history of creation you should know that the name “MOSES” is NOT a HEBREW NAME. “Moses” came from the name “MOSHE” which is Egyptian. Have you ever heard of the name “Tuthmoses” and “Ahmoses”??? These names are from Kings that ruled in Kemet/Egypt before your prophet “Moses” was BORN…
History is best qualified to reward ALL research.
The Ethiopians and the people of Kemet/Egypt, Identified with nature. Since the “CREATOR” made everything in the universe they saw and IDENTIFIED the creator in everything in the universe……They did not pray to animals or the SUN as you would ASSUME……
To make it simple as possible for you to understand the SUN is just a personification of the CREATOR……..If you think about it, there is only 2 things in the UNIVERSE that can give life and take life.
Without the SUN life as we know will cease to exist……Without the creator our spiritual existance will cease…
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
December 17, 2008 at 8:28 pm |
Kered,
During Anicent Eyght there were gods many and lords manys and each god had a name and each lord had a name also. They Anicent Eyght worship everything from the water to the bug that was on the ground. Sorry to say again my major was Ancient African History which includes Eypgt Here are some of there name:
Egypt Gods Name Appearance
Sun Ra head of falcon and sun disk
Music Hathor horns of cow and sun disk
Destruction Sekhmet head of lion
Sky Nut blue with golden stars
Earth Geb colour of plants and Nile mud
Dead Osiris dressed in white with crook and flail
Desert Seth animal head with long curved snout
Pharoah Horus head of hawk and crown of Egypt
Magic Isis throne on head or holding baby
Wisdom Thoth head of ibis
Embalming Anubis head of jackal
Justice Ma’at feather in her hair
Creation Amun crowned with feathers
Cats Bastet head of cat
Gensis 1:3 And Elohim said, let there be light: and there was light. This light was the light of all life. This light which in Gensis 1:3 was before the sun was ever made. Gensis 1:16 And Elohim made two great lights; (Sun) the greater light to rule the day, (moon)and the lesser light to rule the night: he made stars also.
You must understand that in the purpose of Yahweh all thing are good. Even your miss understanding of what the purpose of Yahweh is. Yahweh is spirt he is the source the substance of all things. Before the Sun the moon the earth you or I were Yahweh was. You breath Yah Weh you don’t breath Amen-Ra. The aminals the waves in the sea and the ocean prasie Yahweh. Your heart beat the count of two. Not the beat of three. You have inhale and exhale of your own breath. Your foot steps have a beat of two. Ther is a up and down moment when you walk. The trees praise Yahweh. Look at the hands and see those Y’s go though out your hands. Your veins are Y’s. That is not happen stands that things are so.
When you go to a school or teacher that dosenot have a correct foundation or understanding of the purpose of Yahweh. Its is corrupted and you look at the person not Yahweh for understanding of all things.
Sorry to correct you again Moses was hide by his mother for three months all Hebrew children are circumcised. So when the Pharaoh daughter came to the river to bathe herself because she was without child Exodus 2: 1-6, She said, “this is a one of the Hebrews children” How does she know this because the foreskin of the male penis is missing Egypt did not circumcised there children this is how she knew that He was a Hebrew.
Meaning, origin and etymology of the name Moses The name Moses is the Greek/Latin version of the original Mosheh. Moses is a Levite, brother of Aaron and Miriam. Because his mother Jochebed (a daughter of Levi) was the aunt of his father Amram, Moses was both a grandson and a great-grandson of Levi (Ex 6:20). (Actually, there are some generations missing because between Levi and Moses there are about four centuries). Moses is also often considered the author of the Torah and is the first leader of Israel.
The etymology and original meaning of the name Moses have been long disputed. Jones derives it from the Egyptian word for water, mo, and the verb to save out of water, `uses’. BDB relates it to the Egyptian word mes, mesu, meaning child, son.
Then, of course, there is the Hebrew verb (masha 1253), which is identical to the name save for the Masoretic additions. It means draw, draw out and is used only two times in Scriptures: 2 Sam 22:17 in a Psalm of David that was copied into the Psalter as Psalm 18 (see verse 16), “He drew me out of many waters”. The other occurrence of the verb is in Ex 2:10, where Moses is named, “And she named him Moses, and said, “Because I drew him out of the water”.”
Since it is highly unlikely that the Egyptian princess was speaking Hebrew when she said it, Moses was probably known by the Egyptian word for Draw Out. Then, when he began to play a role in a Hebrew text, his name must have been subsequently translated into Hebrew.
TWOTOT devotes an article to the name Moses and notes that this name is a ‘Qal active participle’ of the verb masha, and concludes that the name Moses doesn’t mean He Who Was Drawn Out, but rather He Who Draws Out. ‘The name is explained not because Moses is derived from masha but because it resembles it in sound’ (TWOTOT ). TWOTOT further states that the consensus today is that Moses has to do with the Egyptian word for child (as BDB reports).
This in turn suggests that the emphasis in Exodus 2:10 should not be placed on the verb drew – ‘because I drew him out of the water’ – but on the princess who claims right to adopt and name Moses because she drew him out: And she named him because she drew him out of the water.
That Moses went on to become the founder of an independent Israel, and author of a text that contained unprecedented insights in the nature of man, may have reminded a Hebrew audience of the third creation day, when dry land came forth from the waters. To that audience, the name Moses means He Who Extracts; He Who Draws Out Of The Waters.
And wrote all this to say Before your god “Amen-Ra” was. Yahweh is the first and the last of all things you cant get outside of Yahweh that is why Yahweh destroyed (Rameses Pharoah) Egypt and there many gods. To show his power Exodus14: 17-18 And i, behold, I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians, and they shall follow them: and I well get Me Honour upon Pharaoh, and upon al his host, upon his chariots, and upon his horsemen. And the Egyptians shall know that I am Yahweh, when I have gotten Me honour upon Pharaoh upon his chariots and upon his horsemen.
December 17, 2008 at 9:14 pm |
One more thing I would like to say if neither the Bible nor any Egyptians history was known You couldn’t prove the existents of Amen-Ra. But with out the bible Yahweh is always proven. Yahweh is even in Native American History before the Pilgrim set forth on Plymouth Rock.
Native American Indian Keystone YHWH:
YeHeraWaHeha meaning: He who creates
YoHeHaWavoHe: First and Last
YeHeHaWaHeHa: I Am… Your Father
YeHeHaWaHeHa: I am… A Feather of Fly
YoHeHaWavotte: I am… Your Buckler
I Yahweh am all these thing I forum the light and create darkness I Yahweh am all these things. You, I the animals men on the corner, the house the trees, this and that person and those things that you like and don’t like. Yahweh is spirit and everything seen and unseen is spirit materialize.
December 17, 2008 at 10:02 pm |
Edrina:
You have yet to answer my question about CAIN and were did that women come from. But its obvious you cant answer it. You can quote the bible really well but I would lay my head on the chopping block that you have NO IDEA were that BIBLE you read came from.
I have been to the Cairo Museum and the LONDON Museum.
I have been to the valley of the KINGS. I have seen the GIZA Pyramids with my on EYES. I have been to ROME and GREECE……
You have no idea that the GREEKS were TAUGHT by the people of KEMET/EGYPT……If you would read some GREEK Literature you would see. Read “HOMER” and “PLATO”….. Read the IDIOSY and the ODYSSEY….
Even “Sigmund Freud” admits in his BOOK “MOSES and MONOTHEISM” that the HEBREWS “Copied and PLAGARIZED” what the people of KEMET/EGYPT had already ESTABLISHED…..Did you know that Sigmund Freud practised “JUDAISM”????…..Yes he was high up in the RANKS so you know he had some history of the HEBREWS…
I can prove what I am telling you. The only thing you have proven is whats in the BIBLE and you should know that the BIBLE is full of 95% LIES……CONTRADICTIONS
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
December 18, 2008 at 12:41 am |
Cain married the Daughter of Adam and Eve you did not read what I wrote. There was no human life on this earth before Adam and Eve. And Yahweh did not go back to earth to make Cain a wife that was his sister.
You said that you are educate now When I went to School in science class 5th grade If the population only had life one Male and One female Human life it is possible to repopulate the earth.
Now Adam and Eve were created in the Day of Yahweh. Which meaning there was no time as you and I think of time? They were in the Day of Eternity. There is no time in Yahweh since he is eternity him self. Yahweh made time for us. Time began when Adam transgression of law in the garden.
Primal mother Eve, primal father Adam
In the mid-eighties geneticist Allan Wilson from the University of California determined where the first people came from with the help of mitochondrial DNA. The comparison of this part of the genome led to the recognition that the variety of DNA variants in women of African origin is twice as wide as that of the female population elsewhere. Due to the fact that the mutations occur at regular intervals, he concluded that Homo sapiens sapiens lived twice as long in Africa as in other parts of the world.
Researchers now assume that all people are related to one single woman: the “mitochondrial Eve”. She lived approximately 150,000 years ago in Africa and was certainly not the only woman of that time. However, analysis of our genes shows that the whole of humanity descends from this woman via an unbroken chain of mothers. By analogy to mitochondria Eve, there exists “Y chromosome Adam”, the primal father of all of us. He also came from Africa. Increasingly precise DNA studies have repeatedly confirmed this chapter of our history: all people of the world, no matter what skin colour, originate from African hunter-gatherers.
Now this is what a scientist prospective is: they wrote this on DNA
Since you have done all that great travel in your life explain to me one thing why is it that what ever country you go to what ever language you speak why is it that the name of Yahweh is heard when you breath? You inhale Yah and exhale Weh? Why is it when a baby comes in the world it yell out Yah….. Why is it when your last breath on this physical earth is Weh? Why is it Y chromosome? Explain these things Why can you breath your Creator name Amen-Ra. If you tried you have an asthma attack. Believe I tried to breath the name Amen-Ra, Lord God Jesus and Baal and even my own there is no life in any. Yah breathing in is a fresh smile to my lungs and Weh is the great release.
That’s why I said let but aside the bible things that are made by man or women hands. Our bodies the earth, universe are not made with our hands and show me Amen-Ra by these things. Like your body, If Amen-Ra is the Creator of Heaven and earth couldn’t you explain his foot print on my body and the earth plain?
Also, If you don’t know the correct name to placement to use Yes it may seem that Way. Again Yahweh is (Lord) Elohim is (God) and the Yahshua is (Jesus). The CONTRADICTIONS is only because the lacks understanding the purpose of Yahweh. I did not make the world nor did you make your own body. And Yahweh has put his mark on what he has made.
And also, who back there before time was before the great bang as some scientists belief what cause that Whats the flicker of life that’s the question? That life source is Yahweh sorry that you travel all the round world to think that because a Ancient gods and lords were around and built some physical things doesn’t make them creator I understand Africa culture I know were I come from I Know where I going. There was only one Ancients Pharoah that believe in one Supreme deity and after his death he was erase from Egypt history. And just for myself, I could not believe that Amen-Ra is my maker. (Ra-Head of falcon and sun disk) or A men
Another thing is Amen-Ra belief: Now every last discovery in Egyptians history states and talks about the after life and in the tombs of the pharaohs were not there found gold, sliver and jewels taken even some priest. Why because they believe in the physical. NOT Spirit. They Ancient Egypt believe that they would take that with them in the afterlife. Only thing happen other nation came and rob them and put it in Museum. Yahweh is spirit.
December 19, 2008 at 3:12 pm |
Edrina:
Are you serious????? When I “Inhale” I do not hear Yah nor do I hear Weh when i “Exhale”…..
I can position my “Tongue” to produce “ANY” sound when I Inhale or Exhale…….
The IDMR has blinded you…….I feel sorry for people like you cause you are being guided by “Blind Faith”…….
You have no idea of History and Civilization and where all these Religious Factions come from…….
Edrina PLEASE GIVE ME THE CHAPTER AND VERSE WHERE IT SAID ADAM/EVE HAD A DAUGHTER “PRIOR” TO CAIN AND ABEL and then again if he married his “SISTER” he is in violation of the BIBLE which you are “QUOTING” from…..AM I CORRECT??????????
I gave you Link after Link to back up what I am telling you…..the only thing you have is the “Holy Name Bible”…….and I gave you a Chronology of that and where it came from……
I gave you a time-line of Civilization…You nor your Leaders Of IDMR can dispute what I have given…..
If there were no time and place for Adam/Eve then how in the world can you say with a straight face that story is valid???? PLEASE WAKE UP….
The BIBLE you “QUOTE ” says “EVERTHING” has a TIME AND PLACE….AM I RIGHT AGIAN????????? So you are “Contradicting what you Believe in…….My oh My.
With all this Evidence out here in the world people like you are still believing in ADAM/EVE……If you “CAN NOT” put a date/time/place on something and you still believe it to be “TRUE”……then I have some OCEAN front PROPERTY I would like to sell you in the Mojave Desert….
I gave you a link with “ALL” the contradiction in the BIBLE that you nor Dr. Kinley nor Dr. Harris nor Dr. Bryant can DENY…….
But stay as you wish cause I am not here to change your belief……but like I said in an earlier post……WHEN YOU DIE YOU WILL “NOT” SEE YAHWEH nor YAHSHUA cause they had not yet been “Made Up” by the HEBREWS cause the HEBREWS did not exist in 5000 b.c.e. the GREEKS nor ROMANS nor the MUSLIMS existed then and ITS A PROVEN FACT….
PEACE IN THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY AMEN-RA…..
December 19, 2008 at 4:11 pm |
A chronology of the bilbe and creation………Enjoy
Its time to WAKE UP…..The Physical Slavery has ended but the “Mental Slavery” is stronger than ever………..Do not be afraid to ask questions…..Do not be afraid of finding out that which you THOUGHT was the truth in YAHWEH was only a made up story……
From Genesis to Revelations is a PLAGARIZATION from the “Book of coming Forth by Day”………Known today as the “Book of the Dead”….
December 28, 2008 at 5:17 am |
Again I say to all reader and bloger Yahweh is spirit: He is the Source the Substance the limit and bounds of everything. (Things that are seen on unseen.) Yahweh in his pure Spirit state is incomprehensible Which means that we with are natural 5 senses can not understand him in PURE SPIRIT STATE.
Yahweh whom the world calls LORD took on a shape and a Forum as ELOHIM whom the world calls GOD then later walk the earth as YAHSHUA the MESSIAH whom the world calls Jesus Christ.
Now Yahweh Elohim can be seen in Vision (dream) and understood in Revelation. We all are part taker of Yahweh or have a Vision and Revelation that is give by Yahweh to each and everyone of us. Now Yahweh can send you a strong delusion (No understanding) of his Purpose, Pattern and Plan of Yahweh OR Yahweh can send you the understanding of Yahweh Purpose Pattern or Plan.
Now I want all bloger who believe or disagree with what I say to take a small test to examine ourselves in what we believe is TRUTH or a LIE.
If your creator made us wouldn’t he be able to see him in you around you at all times?
Some say that the Bible is error some say that Yahweh is totally made up.
I can only explain to you how I became too an understanding of my creator of the heavens and the earth. The BREATH OF LIFE is give to all. And each one us has a body. By examine your on body you can see YAHWEH stamp on you.
Without distress take the time and close your mouth and breath natural so. The rhythm your breath is the beat of One-inhale and One-exhale. WE all walk Left-Right or Right-Left with a two-step moment. Your heart beat with a count of a bump a bump. Now this is a pattern Why is it a pattern because Yahweh declares so. If we examine Why? With an open heart and mind to know our creator as he really is.
Then Yahweh will open our eyes to the true and will send you understanding of him.
Now let go back to that stamp I was talking about and How our creator has place on his creature his likeness and image. See Yahweh place Y right with in us. Your veins stretch our into Y’s. Take a look at the palms of your hands Why is it Y’s.
Our Yahweh doesn’t make it so complex that you can understand him in a simple way. You do have travel all around the world fine Your Creator he is right with you and I. Its simple by just looking out you window and LOOKING at some as those TREES LOOK at a Trunk and as it branches off IT STANDS as a Y then the branch and its limbs stretches onward in Y’s. Commons Simple learn things just in school tells us that when you made some thing you declare it as yours by label it or Placing your name on it.
Example: Henry Ford had a Vision and Revelation, which was call at one time the Horseless Carriage. The Wright Brothers had a Vision and Revelation of Man power Fly machine. If you were back during any of those time you would had thought these things made were crazy. But look That Vision (idea) and Revelation (understand) became a fact. And when Henry Ford made that Horseless Carriage He Henry Ford but His name on it FORD… Just as you’re Creator did PLACE his name on Us.
Yahweh says let every creature small and great will bear this witness.
Now I said that to say this because I know that a person may say I don’t believe that I man or woman can have a vision or a revelation. Now Moses, In Exodus is having a Vision of Heaven and Earth give to him by Yahweh our Elohim in the Wildness of Sinai on Mt Sinai. On the Mt Yahweh Shows him in a vision the 7 days of creation The Transgressions of Adam and Eve The Tabernacle Pattern to the end of all things. So again Moses wrote the first 5 books of the bible. So when you read you must understand that this is a vision give to him by Yahweh.
Now that comes too that question which I already had answer About Adam and Eve. Moses saw in a vision while in the Wildness Sinai on the Mt Yahweh Elohim made Adam from the dust of ground and breath into his nostril the breath of life. Then he saw Yahweh Elohim take the Rib (tsela) and the Womb from Adam. And call her Woman. A woman is just a Man with a womb.
Heb., Tsela Translate as “chamber” and twice as “rib”
Womb-man- See The Jewish Encyclopedia article Adam Kadmon (‘Er18 a, Gen R VIII)
Also, remember what I said, You are reading Moses vision not a version. So Moses sees the Transgression in the Garden of Eden and the birth of Cain, “And the man Knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten A MAN, even Yahweh. (Gens 4:1) Now that were you word amen comes form your believe in A MAN. (AMAN-Ra)
Now Moses Just don’t see Just Cain but whole generations “ And the days of Adam after had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and He begat sons and daughters: And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years; and he died. Gen 5:3-5
It another thing you must understand the book if Genesis was take out of the book of Exodus. Before there is a beginning of life there must come exit of something.
1.Your main forces are that Yahweh is made up if So why would your THE ALL MIGHT AMEN-RA put Yahwehs his Y’s though out our bodies when his name is differ.
2.Why do WE ask the Question Y?
3.And the Book of Dead Talks about many gods and goddness IF You can only come from the seed of one mother and one father and only can be born though one women womb. Why does your god need help with all those other gods.
Again Yahweh Elohim Yahshua in One not three not many gods Yahweh (pure spirit) then took on Shape and forum as Yahweh-Elohim (the Word) then Yahweh Elohim came into this world as Yahshua the Messiah in the flesh. One Spirit but two manfestaion of one spirit. There are NO Co Partner with Yahweh made any determation.
Example: (H2O) WATER: Water in is pure state GAS can not be seen AIR. WATER has to break it self down to be comprehend it LIQUID. You can not hold Liquid (H2O) in this state but it can take on any shape and fourm it desire. You put in a clear glass it take on that shape and its clear. Water (H2O) breaks itself down into a SOLID ICE in this state at can be handle examine and Truly see for what it is. Now no matter what state Water shows itself in it is still H2O. ONE Water not many waters.
1.Now Show me Were Your IN THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY AMEN-RA….. IS…PLEASE DO.
Again for ALL blogers and reader Do Read the Book of the Dead and Research Egyptology History for yourself. To see if AMEN-RA Histroy is true POLYTHEISM the worship of many gods and goddness. Or was it The truth MONTHEIS the worship of one creator.
From myself I say again there ONLY Has Been One PHOAROH that belief in One supreme being Akhenaten the sun god ATEN all the others before him and after him believe in many gods and goddess.
Again Yahweh is Spirit You must worship Yahweh in Spirit and in Truth. There can only be ONE CREATOR. I ONLY CAME FROM One SEED AND ONE EGG. ONE Mother One Father I worship One Creator Of Heaven and earth.
Keep Bloging but read the Whole Blog before you say I DID NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
I ANSWER The Question of Were CAIN got his wife that was his sister Yahweh made that WAY. YOU Can excepted or rejected. Again Yahweh did not go back into Adam go get another rib or womb. There was only one Wife EVE and the mother of all..
And One more note The LAW Which is in Exodus Which give to Moses physical Law which contain the TEN Commandant and 603 other ordinances.
The Commandant Give to Adam and Eve 1 is to be fruitful and multiply 2. But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. Read Genesis
December 29, 2008 at 3:07 pm |
Edrina:
All I can say to you is I hope you WAKE UP!!!!!! You continue to close your eyes to FACTS:
There is a HUGE difference between TRUTH and BELIEF……….
TRUTH==In agreement with Fact, correct, accurate, straight, level, conformed to the “ORIGINAL” standard, sincerity, integrity and “EVIDENCE”
BELIEF==A conviction that something is true without “FACTS”, exists or is right. An opinion to ones “BEST” knowledge…..
If in the year 5000 b.c.e the name of the CREATOR was NOT Yahweh then it certainly is NOT Yahweh NOW……..If the name of the creator was Yahweh we would have FACTS or EVIDENCE of it. The creator that was worshipped in the year 5000 b.c.e was AMEN-RA.
The name Yahweh is Hebrew and I already proven to you that there was “NO” Hebrews living PRIOR to the year 2000 b.c.e……..Since Yahweh is a Hebrew GOD it is VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE for Yahweh to be the ccreator of ALL………
You keep mentioning the fact that the people of Kemet worshipped many GODS…..If you had any understanding of the culture of Kemet you would realize that those people only worshipped “ONE GOD” and that was “AMEN-RA”……..They associated the creators “ESSENCE” in all things because the creator made all things so they saw the creator everywhere…….Hence the word Omniessence………
Peace in the name AMEN-RA
December 29, 2008 at 3:10 pm |
I was a member of the IDMR for a long, long time. Emphasis on WAS.
The IDMR claims to be a “religious and scientific research organization”. However, any true research . . . other than reading the Bible and the Institutes’ own literature, is discouraged. Dr. Robert Harris, the current leader of the group, has publicly stated that “everything you need to be saved has already been revealed” & therefore research is pointless. For truth’s sake, the IDMR should stop posturing otherwise . . .
The IDMR denies science when it is inconvenient or conflicts with their teachings. For example, they deny the historicity of the fossil record, saying that Yahweh-Elohim planted the dinasaur bones, etc. to make it appear that the world was older than 6,000 years . . . essentially to deceive “the smart boys”!
They have always professed to be able to answer any question “to your satisfaction.” But if you ask them some difficult questions, you may not be satisfied with the answers. Eventually, you will be accused of being “carnal minded”, i.e. satanic simply for asking.
Here’s an example of a question that has never been answered to my satisfaction: If the Bible says that “by grace are ye saved”, and that you are not judged by your works, then why does the IDM require that you attend 3 lectures / week? What is getting dressed up and driving to a lecture hall if it is not a “work.” If it is a work, then it cannot be grace at the same time . . .
The IDMR has its own system of thinking and logic that is incredibly controlling. Carried to extremes, it can be very destructive to family and personal welfare. If you are a member of this group, or a cult, you should read John D. Goldhammer’s book, “Under the Influence – The Destructive Effects of Group Dynamics.” You will be enlightened if you read it objectively, because it has no agenda, i.e. no anti-religious bias. Based upon summary of traits of destructive groups, the IDMR does very, very poorly.
The IDMR kept sway over members for decades: the founder said “you will not live to see the year 2000″ and the present leader, Dr. Harris, publicly stated that the world would end before 1996.
Well, here we are — almost 2008 — and the group has never bothered to admit that it was mistaken. Other prophecies that did not come true have been similarly swept under the rug, in denial mode.
To me, the truth — as best as we can understand it — trumps everything else, especially dogma
December 29, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
Ralph:
I am certain you are happy to be free of the “Clutches” that the IDMR have on its members.
History is best qualified to reward ALL research…….
Once we realize the HISTORY of civilization it will open up a whole new way of thinking. The correct way of thinking for yourself and not let someone else tell you what to think.
We have the freedom to pick up a book and read it and ask questions. If something does not make sense then it probably is a false story. Do some research and make sure that which you are “Believing in has substance, TRUTH, FACTS and EVIDENCE behind it……..
The Modren Day Bibile has been “CORRUPTED”……..It has been rewritten over 1000 times…..
You have to ask yuorself why is that? Why has something that “Supposedly” be true about the creator and civilization been rewritten over and over again????
DR. Kinley said the truth is right in front of you if you look for it…..What he meant was “Do not look for it beyond this bible”…….For if you look for it beyond what he taught then you will certainly realize that you have been lead by a “HUGE LIE”………………by him.
I “Emphasize” reading as many books as possible about civilization and religion…….Read and Comprehend then put it all together and compare what makes the most “Common Sense”…..what have the most Evidence and FACTS behind it………
Peace in the name Amen-Ra
December 29, 2008 at 8:56 pm |
Ralph:
You are not to believe in any thing or except anything with out proof: It doesn’t matter who says from Dr. Harris of IDMR or from Preacher or a Teacher even your own parent because they say so. I have Heard Dr. Harris speak and other of IDMR speak “There are many many false preachers out in the world”. I hope Yahweh will help you fine the truth and not believe in something just because someone says so.
I can tell you that my class I go to encourage you to come to class and study not just the bible by all things. From listening to the news pass history and event. They tell there children to get and education work hard just like another normal parent would do. I have children I go to class my children believe that the name is Yahweh but they don’t go to class and that between them and Yahweh.
I encourage to go but if they don’t I don’t dis own them or say then have a satanic spirit. It all in the purpose of Yahweh. At our school we have maintain the Gospel and not preach anyother Gospel that Wasn’t given to Moses and his forefather.
So, If anyone say that time has end in the Year 1996 and didn’t explain to you what They were talkin about they were in error Not Yahweh. Remember Yahweh has give us a measuring Rod and If doesn’t or can’t be explain by the pattern it not true.
I am not an IDMR follower nor Dr. Harris or the Dean of my School follower. I came to my understanding only by Yahweh. LOOK to your creator and ask Him the Truth of all things. NOT to A MAN for the answer. Research and keep research ask question and keep asking question you have the right your soul depend on it.
December 29, 2008 at 11:12 pm |
Ralph:
And one more thing about the school there are aims. and here are they:
The 4th aim:To encourage and promote the study of the Scriptures, comparative Religions, Psychology, Philosophy and Modern (practical and occult) Science
And one more thing about the school there are aims. and here are they:
Before each class being the moderation is giving and the AIMs
O U R A I M S
The primary Constitutional objectives of the Institute are as follows:
1st – To help you Find and Know Yahweh our Elohim as He really is and actually exists
2nd – To form a nucleus of Universal Brotherhood of Humanity in Yahshua the Messiah without distinction of Race or Nationality, Creed, Sex, Caste or Color
3rd – To investigate the unexplained Spirit Law or so-called Law of Nature and the Powers latent in man
4th – To encourage and promote the study of the Scriptures, comparative Religions, Psychology, Philosophy and Modern (practical and occult) Science
5th – To extirpate current superstition, skepticism and ignorance
6th – To Learn, Know and Understand the operation of Yahweh’s Eternal Purpose through the Dispensations and Ages
7th – To Discern and Avoid being Deceived by Lucifer, the Serpent, the Devil or Satan and his demons, operating the Mystery of Iniquity on Earth through the Dispensations of time
8th – To earnestly contend for the Common Salvation and Faith which was once delivered unto the Sons or Children of Yahweh
9th – To make known that Yahweh, from the beginning, ordained there is NO OTHER NAME given among men whereby man can be saved, saving THE NAME OF YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH
10th – To inherit ETERNAL LIFE NOW in the Kingdom of Yahshua the Messiah, with the Hope of IMMORTAL (ETERNAL) GLORIFICATION in the NEW EARTH STATE
Watchword — PEACE Slogan — SPEAK THE TRUTH
December 30, 2008 at 3:40 pm |
Edrina:
Here is somethiing that should help wake you up. The culture of Yahweh “Did not start with Dr. Kinley”….Yes its true…..the name of the creator according to this modern day BIBLE is Yahweh…..What Dr. Kinley has taught about Yahweh is FALSE…….he has twisted what the original “Believers” of Yahweh taught long before Dr. Kinley was even a THOUGHT…..
BUT….before this modern day BIBLE was written and PLAGARIZED…..we had a creator named AMEN-RA, or ATEN-RA which are one in the same….The Hebrews PLAGARIZED the teachings of the creator…that which was here thousands of years before a HEBREW was BORN……
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
December 30, 2008 at 9:55 pm |
That did not wake me up because Yahweh was always Yahweh I already said, So read the complete blog. I Said that before anything was Yahweh was so that you includes Myself and Dr. Kinley your Amen-Ra the heavens the earth anything see and unseen. Yahweh is Spirit. He is the all and all there is nothign co partner with Yahweh. Yahweh our Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah is One Yahweh not three.
Again your miss understanding is still miss place I never said, ” Dr. Kinley start the name. Yahweh is eternal. Nor Did Dr. Kinley say it either. He said the, Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua the messiah was take out of the bible and place with Lord God and Jesus Christ and without the True names in the bible you will have a miss understanding of the bible.
I don’t worship Dr. Kinley nor no man or god that is or on earth, which are Egypt god. And still you have not answer not one of my question why is that I enjoy reading your blog just to see if you can answer a simple question.
You say that AMEN-RA was worship in Egypt and that AMEN-Ra was the first or always was I can tell you that you are wrong again… You must be smart than the Egyptologist or the one whom have Written many books and the subject to say Amen-Ra was first. Because I can see that it is your own principles Idea.
There was an Upper Egypt and Lower Egypt and both worship different gods or sometimes the same god. Sometime it would depend on the Pharoah and surrounding area. Now here another fact that is true and can not be misunderstood unless your blind.
http://www.watson.org/~leigh/egypt. Egyptian mythology is a complex collection of often competing stories, traditions, and practices. This is partly because the culture is so ancient, and partly because each city had its own set of deities, whose unique personalities are lost as their cults age. Just as each city vied for supreme power before Egypt was a unified kingdom, the cities each tried to establish their gods as the supreme gods. Even after unification, each time the capital moved, the supreme god of the new city rose to be the supreme god of the kingdom.
Below, a table listing some of the many gods and goddesses of Egyptian mythology. The deities are listed as closely as possible to the order of their appearance in the myths, from oldest to newest.
Nekhbet vulture goddess of Upper Egypt
Wadjet cobra goddess of Lower Egypt
Meskhenet childbirth goddess, represented by a tile
Taweret hippopotamus goddess, also childbirth goddess and protectoress
Bet childbirth god and protector of children
Atum Heliopolis (ancient On) sun god, self-created from the Watery Waste of Nun
Shu god of air, created by Atum
Tefnut goddess of moisture, created by Atum, sometimes a lion goddess
Geb earth god, created by Shu and Tefnut
Nut sky goddess, also goddess of death and burial, created by Shu and Tefnut
Osiris fertility god, later king of the dead, child of Geb and Nut
Isis Mistress of Magic and Speaker of Spells, also goddess of the dead, sister-wife of Osiris, child of Geb and Nut, mother of young Horus and therefore symbolic Mother of the Egyptian King
Seth rival of young Horus, destroyer of Osiris’s body, child of Geb and Nut
Nephthys one of the goddesses of the dead, sister-wife of Seth and child of Geb and Nut
Horus the Elder often shown in man’s form, or as a hawk, child of Geb and Nut
young Horus son of Isis
Hathor powerful sky and cow goddess, fertility figure, consort of young Horus but kept a separate temple, associated with tirual music
Thoth Hermopolis god, moon god and reckoner of time, depicted in human form with an ibis mask
Neith national goddess of Lower Egypt, huntress with crossed bow and arrows as her symbol, also goddess of the dead, sometimes supreme creator
Serkhet a goddess of death and burial
Re sun god, in the creation myth with Neith as supreme god, wept men and women from his eyes
Ptah Memphis god, considered primeval being first created to take precendence over Atum
Sekhmet represents the rays of the sun at midday, consort of Ptah and daughter of Re, the sun god, lion goddess of Middle Egypt
Aton Aye at el-Armana tomb chapel, also claimed to take precedence over Atum
Khnum First Cataract deity, ram-headed supreme creator god
Satet and Anuket represent the Nile in flood, helpers to Khnum
Nun and Nunet Ogdoad of Khemenu gods (City of Eight), represent the primeval abyss
Heh and Hauket Ogdoad of Khemenu gods, represent infinity
Kek and Kauket Ogdoad of Khemenu gods, represent darkness
Amun and Amunet Ogdoad of Khemenu gods, represent the unknown gods, also male and female principles in the cosmic system, Amun later a chief god
Mut both lion and warrior goddess, consort of Amun at Thebes, replacing Amunet
Bastet cat goddess, important in the last 1000 years B, originally a lion goddess
Meretseger cobra goddess of the peak overlooking the Valley of the Kings, name means “she who loves silence”
Renenutet snake goddess and protector of the king and the harvest
Nekhbet (Nekhebet, Nechbet) was the predynastic vulture goddess who was originally a goddess of a city, but grew to become patron of Upper Egypt, a guardian of mothers and children, and one of the nebty (the ‘two ladies’) of the pharaoh.
Now predynastic mean before any dynastic…. Again your you have a missunderstand of even what you think you are worshiping in Egygptian history.
There were over 2,000 gods and goddess in Egypt.
All you can said is Peace in the name of Amen-Ra or ALL Mighty AMEN-Ra.
If Amen-Ra is real and not deities. Wouldn’t you be able to show your god in the human body. Or explain to me what is he plan or has he just left you to your own devises.
My Yahweh Elohim though Yahshua Messiah can explain why the human body is the way that it is why there is good and bad. Even why we eat BREAKFAST, LUNCH And DINNER.
So keep blog so that I can keep showin other bloger on this site about your AMEN-Ra. It would have been better for you to said that You believe in Nekhbet since it was pre AMEN-RA.
Now either you are lying kered or the Egyptologist.
Now if you say Egyptologist our lying you need to write a book and be famous so that years of Egypt History can be rewritten to fit your version.
Peace Speak the Truth in Our Creator of Heaven and earth.
December 30, 2008 at 10:05 pm |
Edrina:
Keep spreading the word. IDMR is the truth Ive been with the group since July and its been amazing how much I have come to understand and know the truth. Definitely what you are speaking and spreading is the truth. Yes some people in class have taken it too far as too worship the man, but like he said its all about the spirit. We are all held accountantable for our own mistakes no one else. We are all witnesses from different angles. Just like eye-witnesses to a scence of a crime. Some people worship the messenger but they didnt get the message. What Doc is teaching is that Yahweh and Yahshua are the way point blank.
John 4:23-24 (amplified version, names in it)
23A time will come, however, indeed it is already here, when the true (genuine) worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth (reality); for the Father is seeking just such people as these as His worshipers.
24Yahweh is a Spirit (a spiritual Being) and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth (reality).
Now Kered if something is not True its what…False! So therefor ppl up here talking about Jesus and Jehovah and etc those are false.
Question: what was the messiah name when he was walking around preaching, could you ask Peter, hey where is Jesus at?
Answer: NO, why because the letter J didnt exist til the 1500s
Further more the first KJV didnt use Jesus but Iesus. So if you are willing to accept a name that has been badly mistranliterated, you my friend are lost. You cant transliterate profound names. Funny how George Bush is George Bush in Iraq, kuwait, German, etc…
Kered:
I see what your problem is bro, you worried about the physical too much. Just because you seen some places here and there doesnt mean its correct. There are two spirits working here: Righteous and Unrighteous. Think about it. Also even the dictionary tells you who Amen-Ra is point blank. Look up Jehovah what does it tell you, see Yahweh!! Bro the game is so simple it crazy. He has to reveal it too you. Now you say Amen-Ra is the man right do this, tonight pray to Yahweh and say, “if your name is really Yahweh show me” You have nothing to lose but plenty to gain my friend!!!
Seek, seek, and seek! You will find.
Ralph:
Everyone thing is done by grace! Point Blank!
John 6:64-65 (holy name bible)
But there are some of you that believe not. For Yahshua knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.65 And he said, therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him my father.
Also 2 Thessalalonians 2:13 (holy name bible)
But we are bound to give thanks always to Yahweh for you brethen beloved of him, because he hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the spirit and belief of the the truth
2 Tim 1:9 (holy name bible)
Who hath saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Yahshua the Messiah before the world began
By grace man! Your works have nothing to do with it, you ask why it takes 3 or 4 classes its by his mercy and his choice. If he wanted you to take1 or 10 classes its his choice. Want to know why! Lets go to Isaiah:
Isaiah 55:8-9
8For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith Yahweh.9For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
That should answer your question.
Kered:
I hope you didnt forget about that duel between Yahweh and Baal with Isaiah. He runs the game man. Yahweh dismissed all those Gods back in the day. Keep seeking man you will find the truth!!! Also all his prophets came in his name: EliYAH, Shemu’EL (samuel), MattiYAHu (matthew) Its amazing man, because he is amazing! HalleluYAH!!!
December 30, 2008 at 10:08 pm |
Hey Edrina can you email me man I would like toss some questions at you! Im loving IDMR but there are somethings you know that maybe you can point me in the right direction. Thanks brethen!
yahwarrior23@gmail.com
December 31, 2008 at 1:56 am |
I to spent sometime in IDMR ,and do belive in the true names and believe in being saved by grace. My problem is that people in IDMR are constantly worrying whether they are saved or not.They intellectulize things to the point where they make salvation complicated.Some think that if you can’t run a chart or be well verse biblical facts you are not sealed.Dr.Kinley himself had a 6th grade education and was very humble man.My question is that if Yahshua the Messiah died for our sins so that we have eternal life ,and believe that with all my heart that should be enough
December 31, 2008 at 2:15 am |
IF IDMR was so worried about not using the proper then why did DR.Kinley use God and Jesus for the first 25 years of that teaching.If you go to the http://www.ayahasherayah.org/ site and open the Dr.Kinley video from 1958 he uses God and Jesus.In the transcriptes from the 60’s ans 70’s he also uses the name of God and Jesus.IF he did not use the proper name consistantly then why are the rest of us are considered to go to the lake if we don’t use them.
December 31, 2008 at 2:48 am |
I might add that Dr. Harris appears to – as one of my brethren calls – “going in and out of consciousness” as of late. He will give a lecture from the original doctrine and then when he’s up on the floor again he’ll go back to the so-called progressive revelation doctrine. The poor people are so confused. If they don’t know by now that this is not “sound doctrine” I don’t know what else needs to be done for them to see that. The man will get up and ridicule ministers for teaching the very things he taught them. It reminds me of Pharaoh down in Egypt – “let the people go; no, don’t let the people go!” How long will this man hault between two opinions? When you have convinced the masses that they are being healed in Henry Clifford Kinley and salvation is a Henry Clifford Kinley birthed son – Yahweh truly has made “himself” a worthy
December 31, 2008 at 3:09 am |
We were to “discern and avoid” and we are also suppose to be “earnestly contending for a common salvation” – MOST IDMR members go to class, plop down in a seat listen to some repeat lecture from an LA DVD and go home and contend with their physical lives. Even though it is suppose to be a RESEARCH organization MOST NEVER research what they’re hearing and WORSE what they are teaching before the assembly!!! Calling themselves teachers and MOST need to be taught AGAIN the very FIRST principles laid down by the Founder and Dean Emeritus, Henry C. Kinley and above and beyond that not knowing if they have entered into the resurrection themselves HAVE NO BUSINESS ministering to anyone – THEY ARE FALSE WITNESSES BEFORE YAHWEH. No one can adequately testify to something they have not FIRST been a recepient of themselves. Dr. Kinley in whom they all trust – HAS ACCUSED THEM ALL BEFORE THE FATHER – by the way he set up this organization and charged every member with the divine right to question HIM and hold HIS feet to the fire to be certain for yourself that he did indeed receive these things direct from Yahweh – he never wanted any of us to go along just to get along – and NOW you are not to question any of these false teachers – because “you” are a 3-fold negative entity if you have a question – Or the real reason, none of them possess the ability to answer a doctrinal question.
December 31, 2008 at 3:20 am |
Judging by the doctrine that comes from headquarters, the IDMR, Inc., has lost the ability to explain the doctrine of death, burial, and resurrection (ICor 15:42-44) of Yahshua the Messiah in you. So, being ignorant of Yahweh?s righteousness, they?ve gone about to establish their own (Rom. 10:3) and have created an unworkable doctrine about Birthed Sons (WHERE do you ever find that term in the Scriptures or in Dr. Kinley?s lectures?), declaring that ?you are cast down and out and a Birthed Son is put into your physical body.? I can?t imagine what good that does me, if I?ve been cast out.
So we see the perils of one?s creating his own interpretations and theories, instead of finding out that which has already been established. Rather than try to create one?s own science or Gospel, let?s find out and understand what has already been given to us.
Dr. Kinley says in the Introduction to the Textbook (p. 1, Vol. I),
Although, my purpose, as expressed above, is to help every person who reads this book to LEARN OF THE TRUTH and FIND and KNOW Yahweh, I cannot definitely guarantee that in every case I will succeed in my efforts. The ONLY possibility of this becoming a truly accomplished realization in your life as it is in mine and comparatively few others, lies solely within your own ability and power to accept attested TRUTH and SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN FACTS.If someone chooses to NOT accept attested truth or scientifically proven facts, wh
at can be done? As Yahshua the Messiah said, (John 3:12) “If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?”
So, let us “Prove all things, and hold fast that which is good” (1Th 5:21).
December 31, 2008 at 8:31 am |
Chris
I going to try and explain to you as simple I can Why Dr. Kinley us the names LORD GOD and Jesus Christ. He did not teach the doctrines of LORD, GOD and Jesus Christ Christendom.
First Dr. Kinley said he had a Divine Vision and Revelation given to him by GOD (Yahweh) himself in the year of 1931. But, He said don’t take my word for it but make me prove to you are sacrifice. (Paraphrasing) Now each one has are own level scarification. One person may take a little another make may take a lot.
Now for Hundred of Years the name Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua Messiah were replace with Lord God and Jesus Christ. So If you take or Look at the MOSES Chart and see the Pattern from the Beginning about How Moses was the First to received the name of Yahweh he was 80 years old in the wildness of Sinai. Going to cut this up because you need to Read Exodus he was 40 when he kill the Egypt and buried in the sand and fled out into the wildness. He spent another 40 years in the wildness of Sinai.
Now “the Angel of the LORD (Yahweh) appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he look, and behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.” And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt. And when the LORD (Yahweh) saw that he turned aside to see, GOD (Elohim) called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and side, Moses, Moses!
Then Yahweh begin to introduce himself to Moses and said, “ I am the God (Elohim) of your father Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Also, Yahweh’s tells Moses, “ And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaacs, and unto Jacob as EL-Shaddi, (Almighty Provider) but by My name, Yahweh was not Known to them.
So, Yahweh set appoint in Time in Moses day that they would no longer call him by EL-Shaddi. He Yahweh allow it because Yahweh is going by a pattern and Yahweh does not change we do.
So, if I bring it up to day into when Dr. Kinley begins to USE the Names Lord God and Jesus Christ not teach Christendom. That all the people known that never heard of Yahweh remember this is 1931 and if they did they did not understand the purpose of Yahweh. And Yahweh knows that so, Acts 17:30 “ And the times of this ignorance GOD (Elohim) winked at [overlooked]; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the worked in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained;”
Remember Yahweh Elohim or Elohim is the Archetype Original Pattern of the Universe and everything goes by a pattern. So it was appoint time Dr. Kinley said, “No longer WE us Jesus nor us the names Lord God. (There is more to this but it would take a while to go to great detail with Time.) I just use this one example. Because, Your question is two part.
Now I said that Dr. Kinley use the names Lord God and Jesus. By did not teach Christendom.
Example: Christendom believe that the Messiah (Jesus) is coming back on cloud, that you got to get in to physical water to be baptize and You have to paid money in order to get into Heaven and that the preacher or pope is the Mediator between them and men in this Age. They belief Jesus was setting up a Christen example [walk Christ like]
Now Dr. Kinley says, and the book said, That Messiah has come [present]. Now we preach that by preach of the Gospel [good new] or being Baptize Remember the define means “immerse’’ And you don’t have to be immerse in some physical water. You can be immerse by the sound of someone voice music etc…We don’t do tiding, We ask just for you to pay attention. And There Now after the outpouring of the Holy Spirit there is no physical man between you and Yahweh. You can talk right to the father. Dr. Kinley and the book said, that the (Jesus) Yahshua said “ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. [to end to complete to satisfy]
Now this happen to still today When you began to talk about Yahweh to someone who has not heard of Yahweh you do the same thing.( As of using Lord God Jesus) Then after a while you keep talk with that person and You’ll say now I have told you that Lord and God are titles and are not names and the Name Jesus is not the name of the Savior.
Chris Question: “IF he did not use the proper name consistantly then why are the rest of us are considered to go to the lake if we don’t use them.”
Edrina answer: Obedience unto Yahweh. Why obey yahweh because, Let me says, this by doing just a little research on what the names Jesus means and it etmologoy :
Whats in a name EVERYTHING: JESUS
Baal means “Lord” in Hebrew
GE (J) sound means earth or soil in Greek
Sus means swine or pig Latin
So your saying “ earth pig”.
Is a corrupted name derived from Greek IESOUS, IES, Or Iysh in Hebrew means
Man,
While SUS-SOOS means Hores “man Horse” or Man breast
The Name Iesous or “Hey-soos” meand Hey Horse
What’s in a Name EVERYTHING: Yahweh Elohim Yahshua
Yahweh (To be) Elohim (the almighty provider) Yahshua (savior)
Now Chris you should answer that question for yourself about go to the lake. You said your name is Chris and You wouldn’t have me calling out of your name not after you told me. Keep it simple Love peace in Yahshua Messiah. I Hope I answer the question. If not I will try and find the some transcript or more bible refer on the Name of Yahshua the Messiah.
It by grace we are save.
December 31, 2008 at 4:31 pm |
There is an old saying:
“To hate the root of a tree is to hate the tree itself”
Everything has a time, place and beginning. To deny the “HISTORY” of where the Hebrews, Muslims an the Catholics got their “Doctrine” is in essence Denying the “TRUE” Creator……
We do not teach RACISM. When we speak of history we are speaking from “FACTS” that can be backed-up with “EVIDENCE”….
I will say this again…..There were “NO” Greeks or Romans, Hebrews, Muslims, Catholics, Baptist, Lutherans, 7th day Adventist, Masons or any other Religious group Prior to 2000b.c.e…..The story of “Adam/Eve” is only 3000/4000 years old…..We are in the year 2009…..Which means according to this story…..Civilization started between the years of 1000 b.c.e and 2000 b.c.e
Before the year 2000b.c.e we have “NO” documentation of a “Hebrew” on the face of the EARTH…….There was No Rome or Greece……There was NO European on this Earth…..No Asia, No America, No Mexico…….
And there is “PROOF”, “EVIDENCE”, “FACTS” to back this up……
Abraham came on the scene between 1800b.c.e and 1700b.c.e..
EVIDENCE will prove that the people of “KEMET” was already in their 17th Dynastic Era………..
All Religion came out of “KEMET”………Like it or not
Can anyone of you give me the name of the “King” who was holding captive the Hebrews in Kemet/Egypt????????? Please give me the name and I will give you EVIDENCE that you are Sadly Mistaken……
This is why we say: “History is BEST qualified to reward ALL research”.
If you knew History you would have known that the “Hyksos” which are the “Hebrews” RULED in Kemet/Egypt in the years between 1500-1600b.c.e????…..Did your BIBLE tell you that??..No it Did NOT…..And did your BIBLE also tell you that the Pyramids were built Before the First Hebrew was BORN????….No it DID NOT
Auset who the “Greeks” called “Isis” was the “First Women” to have an “Immaculate Conception”…….I can give you evidence of this.
Ausar who the “Greeks” called “Osirius” was the “First man” to Resurect from the Dead…..after he was Killed by his Brother “Seth”…….Not Yashua nor Jesus…………This is where that story of “Cain killing his Brother Abel” came from……I can give proof of this.
Heru who the “Greeks” called Horus…..The “Son” of Auset and Ausar………That great Sphinx you see in Kemet/Egypt…that was built in honor of “Heru” in the 3rd Dynasty of Kemet around 3000b.c.e…..”Heru avenged his Fathers Death by Killing “Seth”……and by Killing “Seth” who represnts the “Devil”……gave promise of the afterlife with “Ausar and Auset”…….There was NO hanging on a CROSS…….In “FACT”…that cross you see today is a “PLAGARIZATION” of the “ANKH”……I can give you proof of this…..
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
December 31, 2008 at 5:53 pm |
My brothers and Sisters PLEASE WAKE UP…….
You do believe that there was no letter “J” in BIBILICAL times correct???
Then PLEASE tell me what was the name of “Jerusalem and the river Jordan”…….Remember, there was no letter “J” doing this time…..
History is best qualified to reward all research…….
The truth is ‘hidden in plain sight’ and it is because it is the safest place to hide the truth. We stumble over it everyday and we don’t see it, because we were taught not to ask questions.
Carter G’ Woodson from his book the Mis-Education of the Negro expresses it best:
“When you control a man’s thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand her or go there. He will find his proper place and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His Mis-Education makes it necessary.”
Hosea 4:6 says: “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”
In order to have “Knowledge” you must “First” know “HISTORY”…….And those of you in the IDMR have know CLUE about HISTORY so you have no knowledge…..
July 1, 2009 at 2:59 pm |
The law was given unto israel through Moses the first prophet of Yahweh Elohim,who is Yahshua the holy spirit in a body.The law could not be broken where there was no law,hence the marriage of cain and a sister.This marriage took place before the law,and after the law{transgression in Eden]the tree.
December 31, 2008 at 8:19 pm |
LMAO, Kered you are trying to hard bro! Serious lack of knowledge is therefor being ignorant, believing someone instead of doing the research for yourself. You alone cant even give the first correct God of the Egyptians. Serious chill out!
Answer to your question: Yerushalayim (no J until 1500s) serious KJV didnt even use the Jesus in its first copy in 1561. You talk so much about History and knowledge but you cant refute that buddy.
They say the closest correct form in english would of been Joshua, so why is it that we hear of Jesus, or wait someone changed it awhile back. Its been thru like 3 different cultures said to mean this and that but what they didnt know is that from Greek to Hebrew was the hardest thing too. On top of that profound names stay the same. But dont take my word for it look it up.
Also this is what the jordan river is called: nehar hayarden, where is your knowledge easy search of google could of gave you that. You making it soo hard when its too simple.
December 31, 2008 at 9:29 pm |
Sam: Can you read and comprehend???
I know the letter “J” did not exist back then I am not disputing that………But since you are so SMART……
Where was the garden of eden????
What year was Adam/Eve born????
Who was the “Pharaoh” that “supposedly” held the Hebrews captive and what year was it???
What year did “MOSES” lead the Hebrews from Egypt???
Sam. Its very sad that you are trying hard to dispute what I am saying…..but you and the rest of your followers of Dr. Kinley can not give any time, place, or dates of anything…..
You can quote the BIBLE very well….Who cant? The BIBLE does not give any dates or time…..The BIBLE uses names of people and places that never EXISTED……The Holy NAME BIBLE is no different from KJV..
Sam: Have you read the “KOINE BIBLE or the SEPTUAGINT BIBLE or the VULGATE BIBLE”……these are only a few version out of 1000…..that right there should tell you that what you are reading is based on deceit…
The name of the creator of ALL is AMEN-RA…….You can find teh name Amen-Ra all up and down the Nile Valley. In the Valley of the Kings. In all the Ancient tombs and cities in Ethiopia and Sudan………
You are PRAISING a Hebrew God and you are not even a Hebrew yourself…..The people today in Israel do not Identify with you and Dr. Kinley……But you will stand up in class three times a week and Praise Israel…….They do not even know who Dr. Kinley is…….So Sad
If you knew “HISTORY” you would have known that the name Israel is an Egpytian/Kemet name…….Can I prove it YES…
“Is” comes from the greek “Isis” which the original name of Goddess “Auset”
“Ra” comes from the Egyptian/Kemet name of the Creator which represents the rising of the “Sun”
“EL” comes from the hebrew word meaning “Lord”…….
You cant find the NAME YAHWEH or YAHSHUA written no where PRIOR to 2000b.c.e…………
In what Dynasty did “Moses” live?????
You should know this because you are certain about Yahweh so you must have an understanding of the “History” of your Religion……
Please dont tell me it does not matter if you have know idea of the dates and places and time……It matters very much. Its “Foolish” to beleive something just because some man jumped up and said he had a vision/revelation……..
What Dr. Kinley has taught is nothing “NEW”…….Most people are to lazy to read a BOOK thoroughly……But if you are serious about history and the TRUTH then you would have known that “Yahweh” was always in the BIBLE……It was taken out of the main body of the book…….But the “Preface” would tell you that “Yahweh” is the God of the Modern Day Bible…….Thats nothing new to us…we always knew that. That was taught to us back in elementary………
But what was not taught was the BIBLE is a PLAGARIZATION of the TRUTH……..
The IDMR will tell you there is no need for “Research” but that word is in their TITLE…..Hence the “R” in IDMR……..
Dr. Harris himself has said there is no need to research cause you have already been saved if you know the name Yashua/Yahweh……..
Talk about Contradiction………and the confusion continues
December 31, 2008 at 11:00 pm |
Again the myth you have error again in the Story
At first, there was only Nun. Nun was the dark waters of chaos. One day, a hill rose up out of the waters. This hill was called Ben-Ben. On this hill stood Atum, the first god. Atum coughed and spat out Shu, the god of the air, and Tefnut, the goddess of moisture. Shu and Tefnut had two children. First, there was Geb, the god of the earth. Then, there was Nut, the goddess of the sky. Shu lifted Nut up so that she became a canopy over Geb. Nut and Geb had four children named Osiris, Isis, Seth and Nephthys Osiris was the king of the earth and Isis was the queen. Osiris was a good king, and he ruled over the earth for many years. However, everything was not well. Seth was jealous of Osiris because he wanted to be the ruler of the earth. He grew angrier and angrier until one day he killed Osiris. Osiris went down into the underworld and Seth remained on earth and became king. Osiris and Isis had one son called Horus. Horus battled against Seth and regained the throne.
After that, Horus was the king of the earth and Osiris was the king of the underworld.
The End
This is a fable from Egyptian walls
January 1, 2009 at 12:01 am |
Edrina:
We have Three Creation Stories that were told in KEMET.
The First story was that of “Heliopolis” which you are refering to.
The Second was the “Memphite” creation story.
The Third was the “Hermapolitan” creation story.
This so-called “Fable” from Egyptian walls PREDATES Yahweh by thousands of years……
All three of these Creation Stories have the same meaning……They were told in different parts of KEMET…
The Heliopolis story was told in the city of “Heliopolis” which is now called “Cairo, Egypt.
The Memphite story was told in Memphis, Kemet
The Hermapolitan story was told in Thebes, Kemet…..
Tell me something Edrina……can you find the name Yahweh or Yahshua on any of those Walls??????………….
January 1, 2009 at 12:18 am |
You cannot worship two gods. How can quota bible scripture to fit your need when you don’t even believe it yourself.
Kered Says:
1.Before the year 2000b.c.e we have “NO” documentation of a “Hebrew” on the face of the EARTH…….There was No Rome or Greece……There was NO European on this Earth…..No Asia, No America, No Mexico…….
So Caucasians Asia just pops up from out of nowhere? Only People of COLOUR existent. Oh…. That just
You do even look at your on evidence of Egyptian History. http://www.mnsu.edu/emuseum/prehistory/egypt/history/timeline.html
This time line of History began with the more recent (youngest) to the Latest (oldest).
See you don’t even know what you believe because you can answer a simple question If Amen –Ra was the first god Or is the creator of all things WHY Cant You explain His purpose His Plan. How does he AMEN-Ra want us to worship him?
See the creator I service tells me how to worship Him..
Kered said,
1.You are PRAISING a Hebrew God and you are not even a Hebrew yourself…..The people today in Israel do not Identify with you and Dr. Kinley……But you will stand up in class three times a week and Praise Israel…….They do not even know who Dr. Kinley is…….So Sad
Again you are at a lost Yahweh use the Hebrews Jew as example. To service his purpose. To show his power.
I have friends whom are pure Africa which means she is From the Zulu Tribe another from South Africa and other from another part of the area… And I went to a school that had exchange students from African. And she doesn’t worship those gods. Her belief of worship is around a Female god and she believes in a physical recarnation on earth.
There are many different belief in Egypt. You couldn’t name them all.
Kered says
1.Then PLEASE tell me what was the name of “Jerusalem and the river Jordan”…….Remember, there was no letter “J” doing this time…..
Here is example by take the word Jew:
The Hebrew for Jew, יהודי , is pronounced ye-hoo-DEE. The Hebrew letter Yud (or Yod), י, used as a ‘y’ in the Hebrew language (as in the word ye-hoo-DEE), becomes a ‘j’ in languages using the Latin-based alphabet when the Yud is used as a consonant rather than as a vowel. Therefore, a rough transliteration of יהודי in English would be Jew.
Jerusalem names was Yerushalayim,
Kered says:
1.Abraham came on the scene between 1800b.c.e and 1700b.c.e..
So there was someone before him….. Abraham had to have mother and father.
Keep bloging… There can only be one…
January 1, 2009 at 11:37 pm |
I have been researching IDMR for a little while and find some things I have learned a real eye opener.I was raised catholic and I haved questioned many of the rituales and beliefs that was forced upon me in my youth.If people what know what a cult is, try being raised a catholic.They take there share liberties with the bible.A least IDMR tries to back up what they say.My problem with IDMR that there is not a wealth of information such as sites and video.I submit questions to the IDMR site and they never get back to me. Why don’t they bombard the internet with information like the other relegions do. Some people don’t live close to a IDMR class site.I feel like they act as a secret society at some level . What I have learned is great ,but I wish there was more.
January 2, 2009 at 6:17 am |
Im gonna tell you a little story about me Ivan “Shua Shua” you say Yahshua. I AM a desend of three nation’s of man, and women which are Indian, African, and Europian, and many blood lines to meet in the after life because I truly chose to return to which I come from which is families. Iran was a uncle of mine whom died on Hamburger Hill see the reason Im telling you this is because when my uncle was born my grandmother named him Ivan, but the nurse put Iran on the birth papers my grandmother never got it changed, but they knew him as Ivan. When my uncle died it hurt my mother because she loved her brother, and what is love “Jesus”, and so she named me Ivan, GODS chosen one, and this is the story of Ivan also Shua Shua Naheem ALLAH. Shua Shua which means born savior, Naheem which means the bright early star the SUN, ALLAH, but GOD said there will be no other GOD, but he so he is a man? Now I truly stand between Heavon, and Hell which my eyes see opon this earth, but the problem is I dont know which of the two I should choose I know I am here to give good advise that can change lives, but do you the world deserve good? I was born in America May 10 1976 the year of the dragon as Ivan I have earned many names since then which I choose not to share any other, but the two I have named. Now I said I truly stand between good, and bad so this is my story, and relation ship with the bible, but people tell me to read the whole bible I never wanted to I felt good reading what I felt related to me the most which is the entire book of Revelations. I begin reading this book at a strange time in my life, and Americas history as well because the first night I desided to read the bible was Sept 11 2001 about 12:30 at night I finished about 2:50 in the morning. I was locked up in the Roanoke city jail at the time so that morning when the TV was cut on people in the pod I was in seen what was going on some one from the pod woke me, and said to me we at war so I got out of the bed, and went to see if it was true when I seen what was going on I said to my self damn I just read Revelations, and we going through one. I got out of jail Dec 23 2002, and went on being me Ivan “Shua Shua”, but one day I desided to read Revelations again beginning to the end like last time, and the very next day the north eastern black out happen now that was the reading four more would follow. One day I was going through a lot of stress so I started Revelations again beginning to end, and sure enough the next day the TSUNAMI happend I though to my self I may be diffrent now the fourth time I desided to read Revelations I was back in jail, but before I read it I told some one in there with me watch when I read this book some thing is going to be in the papers, and the news so I read it again for the fourth time from beginning to the ene, and all that next day the talk was about the statue of Jesus mother crying blood in Sacramento CA. I was not trying to show off because truthfuly I never realy told many people about this because it later became wicked or evil for me as Im about to tell you about……..it was my mothers birth day thefirst one that I had with out her in my life I was going through a lot of stress, and battling with the demonds in my mind the stress is so bad I talking to my self out load, and Im the only one in the room so yes Im talking to myself so pay close attention to what I said to the voices because they where focused on America even though I dint mean for what happen to happen I said a lot of people is gonna die behind me reading this bible to night, and I dont care if its NASA if I want It touched then I can desroy it meaning I can put my evil into others to make them do my evil will, and even kill them self. I picked the bible up for the fifth time and started Revelation like always beginning to end, but not like the other times this time I was mad as I ever been you see as I read a flood killed 29 people in South Carolina, and then the very next day the Va Teck killings following the NASA hostage situation. Now me I have not seen it all, but I seen enough to know life is not fare so in that fact I read Revelation for a sixth time, but this time I asked GOD not to kill from my soil devine evil because no one could will that to me, but GOD. THAT is my story, and you can also readY book ARMAGHETTO on lulu.com under Armaghtto books…..which I can say is a writing Revelation all in the same so thank you for paying attention. Ivan The Terrible at myspace.com/Kyzasolasay
January 2, 2009 at 7:31 am |
Luke,
Keep pusing yea the idmr website is not by the best out there with info and etc..and there arent alot of classes in some areas but that is just how it is setup man. Most people fail to realize Yahweh has never worked in the majority he has always worked small. Look at Noah Arks, out of the whole creation 8 ppl where saved. He never changes man, i understand about the Catholic stuff i have some friends in that and its tough to talk to them. But keep pushing and researching. truth is out there.
Kered,
I gave you the answers to your question you asked about Jordan river and Jerusalem. Yes im not Hebrew physically, but spiritually im all Yahweh bro and thats all that matters. Where all him he created us, where all apart of him i just know NOW consciously who i am and who the creator really is. you go on about Amen-ra but he needs others for support. Yahweh is ONE and the all in all. First letter in the bible is IN and the last is ALL. All in ALL bro! You say the bible steals stories from the Egyptians then why does Yahweh bash your gods during the Moses era. tell me why plagiarize and make the Egyptians look bad at the same time? Makes no sense. But if you insist Amen-ra is the man you are mistakened! your all physically with this amen-ra look at yourself dates and places and times, dynasty etc…. what about spiritually tell me how you are suppose to worship and what he does in your daily life. can you do that. you cant refute that Yahweh is working in his sons lives because he is. bottom line!
January 2, 2009 at 5:09 pm |
Sam & Edrina:
The reason why the BIBLE does not give any indication of Abrahams PARENTS is because ABRAHAM never EXISTED: Abraham is a “Figment” of someones IMAGINATION……95% of Todays BIBLES are made up stories…..
History is best QUALIFIED to REWARD ALL RESEARCH……..
I clearly gave you evidence of the “First” Semetic/Hebrew people. They were called the “HYKSOS”……That name is really GREEK…..the people of Kemet/Egypt called them…….”hikau khausut”, which meant “rulers of foreign countries”……And YES….They ruled in Kemet/Egypt for almost 500 years…….And there is PROOF of IT……..So that right there “Negates” what your “Holy Name Bible” and any other bible will claim that the “Hebrews” were SLAVES in Kemet/Egypt……..and with ALL this EVIDENCE you still believe they were slaves……..
Read “Manethos Aegyptica”………..Manethos was a Prominent Historian of Kemet/Egypt back then…..
They were “Conceived” in “Iniquity” and “Born” into “Sin”…..
The 5% of whats true in the BIBLE gives proof of their beginning……..
GEN: 25-23…”And Yahweh said unto her, two nations are inside thy womb and two “Manner” of people shall be “seperated” from thy bowels; and one people shall be stronger than the other; and the elder shall serve the younger.”
I am speaking about “Jacob” and “Esau”….Who represents 2 Distinct nations…..The first came out “Red and Hairy” which they Named “Esau”….is that right????
The second was Named “Jacob”….correct????
According to Kemet/Egpytian history…..when you refer to someone as “Red”…..they are of “Light Skin”……The BIBLE gave “NO” indication of what color Jacob was…..correct????
Now pay attention……..
To understand this “We” need to have a “Knowledge of “History”…….History tells us that the “Hebrews” did “NOT” exist until after 2000b.c.e……
The people who wrote or PLAGARIZED the TRUTH into these BIBLES will never put any date, time or place with these stories because if they did you would not be PRAYING to a made-up GOD……
It is said..”The Truth is Hidden in Plain site”……
“ESAU” represents the true Semite/Hebrew and “JACOB” represents the Indigenous people of Kemet/Egypt…..
January 2, 2009 at 5:39 pm |
Edrina:
In your last post you try to refute what I said about the Hebrews or any other people on earth prior to 2000b.c.e
PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE WEBSITE BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR POST…..
The “Hyksos” invaded Kemet in the Intermediate Period between 1650b.c.e and 1550b.c.e
Now……when I say there is “NO” evidence of any other “CULTURE”……the word culture means:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/culture
While Kemet/Egypt was in their 17th Dynastic ERA…their is “NO” evidence of any other “Culture of people on earth…..Because those others were yet “BARBARIANS”……..not yet Civilised to document anything………..
Do you understand now?????
We do not PRACTICE, PREACH, ADVOCATE any type of RACISM. We only speak from what the Creator “Amen-Ra has done……..
January 2, 2009 at 7:19 pm |
Sam:
The people of Kemet was preaching about “Spirituality” thousands of years before the Hebrew made-up Yahweh……..
I think its in Mathew were the Messhiah says: “I will replace their stone hearts with that of Flesh hearts”……It is said that the “Hearts of men you will find Evil or Good…..correct??
Where did this come from???……It came from the Books of Kemet/Egypt….Can I prove it YES…….
According to TRUTH and FACTS and EVIDENCE……When we DIE…our “HEARTS” will be Weighted on the Scales of Truth in the “Hall of MA’At”……..or the Hall of Truth and Justice…..Your heart will be placed on the scales of Truth weighted against the Feather of Goddess Ma’at…..
if your heart tips the scale heavier than the feather of Ma’at……your spirit was Devoured and sent to the “Lake of Fire”….
Does that sound familiar….”Lake of Fire”………All that which is written in the these modern day BIBLES have been “PLAGARIZED” from the people of Kemet…….And we have PROOF of this…..
For those of you who do not know who Goddess Ma’at was look it up……”Ma’at” is the Foundation upon which CIVILIZATION is based…….
In this Hall you will not see Yahweh or Yahshua……this is documented all along the Nile Valley and the avalley of the Kings…..It is documented on Papyrus or Paper whichever you want to call it…….This scene which is called the “Judgement of the Heart” is carved in “STONE” dating back thousands of years before YAHWEH…..and you will still jump up in my face with this foolishness…PLEASE
If some of you take the time and Wake-Up…..do some research….travel to the Museums of Cairo and France and Germany and Paris……AND SEE THE EVIDENCE THAT HAVE BEEN KEPT FROM YOU……even though it is in plain site where you can go see them……Satan has a grip on your “Mentallity”…….You are afraid to wake-up cause you will find that what you have been taught by your PREACHERS, RABBIs, and all those who claim to have had some FOOLISH vision were actually WRONG….
Peace to you and praise almighty Amen-Ra
January 2, 2009 at 7:28 pm |
This is one of our websites I think you will find interesting if not mind boggling……..What it gives is Times, Places, Names and Dates….
Compare it to what you have in the Holy Name Bible…..See if it fits
PEACE
January 2, 2009 at 7:43 pm |
This is what you will see at the Judgement of your spirit……
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
January 2, 2009 at 7:50 pm |
Kered,
Ok they dont even know if Amen-ra is the orginially creator. Some say Thoth is the one who created the heavens and the earth and that Ra was his son. Other sources say otherwise. See there are too many Gods for what you are claiming. So how is it that you know Amen-ra is the one and not Thoth! It is said Thoth is the God of wisdom, language etc.. and that he created himself as well as the heavens and the earth. So how do you know bro? Does your spirit tell you? How is it that these CERTIFIED SCIENTIST and RESEARCHERS dont know for sure but you do.
Furthermore shows Amen-ra weak side check it:
In one story the goddess Isis contrived and succeeded in forcing him to whisper to her his secret name. Even the way it is contrived shows Ra in a weaker position.
http://www.geocities.com/happyfolks@sbcglobal.net/IsAmenRaAllPowerful.html
You see the Elohim we worship has no weakness he is the ALL in ALL bro. All knowing, all powerful, he is it! One Deity, to be self existent. Ayah Asher Ayah or Yod He Waw He, ” I am therefor I am” basically self-existent bottom line!!! You talk about history and facts. Pls explain the discover of Noah’s Ark in Turkey, i think you said local flood! Hmm ok please explain the chariots still on the bottom of the red sea, please explain how there is one slight path that you can actually cross on foot, and you cant cross no were else. Please explain these amazing things bro because i dont think you can! He has left his mark all throughout history . Show Amen-ra’s mark on your body on his mark on creation, enlighten me pls…
January 2, 2009 at 8:56 pm |
Sam:
Give me evidence of “Chariots in the REd Sea???
Give me Evidence of “Noahs Ark” in Turkey???
Also Sam, you are contradicting yourself…..When you ask me to show you a mark on my “Physical Body”……I thought it was “NOT” about the “Physical” with Yahweh and the IDMR?????
You people are confused……..If its all about the “Spiritual” then having such marks on the body as YOU PEOPLE CLAIM to have does not matter……Correct??
Amen-Ra left his mark on the WORLD and UNIVERSE my Friend…..In the Holy Name Bible Yahshua says….” I am the light of the world”……isn’t that what Yahshua said?????….Well now look here….
You must ask yourself what “Light” was he speaking of?????….And that “LIGHT” my friend is seen on a DAILY basis……..IT SITS IN THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE…………That which “Represents Amen-Ra”
If you had the “KEYS” to understand that story of “Ra and Auset” you would have known that its not about being “weak”…..What does that have to do with……???? That story is telling you that the Creator “Trusted” Auset enough to tell her his Name……Plain and simple
If thats the case then “Yahweh” is Extremely weak…….How many people has he given his name and his “So-Called Vision to????……Hundreds
He is much weaker my friend if you want to compare that……Once compared to Hundreds……
My friend you have yet to understand the TRUTH……
It took me some time to understand so I “Empathise” with you……Keep researching and your Heart, Mind and Spirit will open up…..
You have yet to realize what “Diety” played what role in creation and how the people of Kemet associated the “Essence” of the One True Creator with Nature……..Keep searching and you will see it.
But remember………you can not deny that Yahweh did not exist prior to 2000b.c.e
January 2, 2009 at 9:17 pm |
Sam and Edrina:
This is more evidence of the original religion and Creator of All……..some historians still refer to that religion of Kemet as being a “Cult” just like some people refer to the IDMR as a “Cult”…..
But the Religion of Kemet Pre-Dates any other religion on EARTH……
My “Common Sense” tells me that this must be the TRUTH and we must DIG thru all the LIES and PLAGARIZATIONS to get back to it……There is too much evidence to back it up……Satan and his Co-Horts could not totally destroy it because of its TRUTH…..
But guess what……its well worth the HASSLE……
You must ask yourselves this one QUESTION????
Why is that the only book that was given to the Slaves on the plantation was the BIBLE….???? Its because thats the one book that controls “Mental Slavery”…….
And GOD said I will curse the children of “HAM”……I will “Smoot Thee black as night”…..Now this is what GOD said he would do…..
Now after Satan had taken those people from their Land, Their Culture, Their Religion and Their God…Placed them on a plantation as slaves….then he will turn around and give you a book about GOD that has in it you are CURSED……………
As Carter G. Woodson said:
“When you control a man’s THINKING you dont have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go there. He will find his proper place and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His Mis-Education makes it necessary.”
WAKE-UP………….
January 2, 2009 at 9:24 pm |
“Amen-Ra” is their a blood line am I not one……… God is one God, and their shall be no other name, but God!!!!! There was one Jesus “Yashua”, who lives in me because I beleave in him, but Devine Power is giving to God’s Chosen one’s as Noah to be able to control minds of chosen few animals, but two of every kind I think its true just as Mosses me, and all the others before me with God’s Love, and Wrath. Jesus “Yahshua” did die on the cross he do live in me, and I am him! Death on the cross God punished “Yashua” because he was the chosen one to rule earth in that flesh you can manifest water into wine, but you talk of the beauty of heavon as if all is worthy…… behold the great manifestor “Yashua” Jesus can turn water into wine, and can do all things on earth execpt one thing in the first life manifest the kingdom instead people that did not see his devine power could not beleave in him, because Jesus “Yashua” loved, but he was not perfect of love. There will be done on Earth as it is in Heavon his will is being done on Earth today, and his father, and love ones share. Now money I know thats whats going on in your mind thats because you look right past your God cant do that because Satan takes you over to the point you may do any thing for money. No Im not talking about money Im talking about God’s Mercy allowing his son to shine his Mercy on you. Satan walks the Earth in every beast lion down to man, cat, and dog, and God knows I would want to get cought in a red ant nest those little Devil’s will eat you alive. Soul controler Jesus “Yashua” holder of the key’s to Hell, and Heavon. What is a man to gain the world, but lose his soul well the world belongs to God, and you can not lose your soul because that is not your it’s God’s the only thing that is your’s is free will, and the blessing the father pass to his children ; no matter what name we choose to call the father he has, but one name God! Who was the first God to be worshiped ; you cant say right, but we all agree in a higher power well I think that power is here in me Ivan Shua Shua Na’heem Allah……..
January 2, 2009 at 9:42 pm |
Kered
I have state that I don’t Need a Book (Bible) to explain the creator.
Again Yahweh Is PURE Spirit He is The Source and the Substance the Limits and Bounds of everything. Have you ever ask you self why do we speak in Present, Past and Future. Why does Atom have Proton, Neutron, and Electron? Why dose the Cell have Nucleolus Nucleus and a Cell body? And Why do we eat Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner. Why does the Earth have a Crust, Mantle and Core?
Why Because My creator Is the Pattern Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua they are one: Yahweh (Formless) which is Pure spirit you can not (cannot) comprehend him in this state and condition. So Yahweh transforms himself it to Elohim SUPER INCORPOREAL form Which you can see and takes on shape form. Yahshua (Solid) manifested in the flesh or Physical Form. And Everything must conform to Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah see and unseen known and unknown. One Spirit and two manifestation of this One Spirit.
Again the example of H2O (Water)
Example: (H2O) WATER: Water in is pure state GAS can not be seen AIR. WATER has to break it self down to be comprehend it LIQUID. You can not hold Liquid (H2O) in this state but it can take on any shape and fourm it desire. You put in a clear glass it take on that shape and its clear. Water (H2O) breaks itself down into a SOLID ICE in this state at can be handle examine and Truly see for what it is. Now no matter what state Water shows itself in it is still H2O. ONE
Now lets compare Cell:
All cells have a ’skin’, called the plasma membrane, protecting it from the outside environment. The cell membrane regulates the movement of (1) water, (2nd) nutrients and (3rd) wastes into and out of the cell. But still this is One Skin of the cell not many plasma membrane One.
Now lets Examine the Earth: The earth has three main levels.
The Earth’s outermost surface is called the crust region just below the crust and extending all the way down to the Mantle and Beneath the mantle is the Earth’s core. The Earth’s core consists of a fluid outer core and a solid inner core. Beneath or Inside is Plastic, Liquid and Solid. But still this is still One Earth not many.
My example can go on an on how Yahweh our Creator of the Universe is the only One.
Universe Mean is ONE: “the whole world, cosmos,” from O.Fr. univers (12c.), from L. universum “the universe,” noun use of neut. of adj. universus “all together,” lit. “turned into one,” from unus “one” (see one) + versus, pp. of vertere “to turn” (see versus). Properly a loan-translation of Gk. to holon “the universe,” noun use of neut. of adj. holos “whole” (see safe (adj.)).
Kered: Wrong again….
1. The reason why the BIBLE does not give any indication of Abrahams PARENTS is because ABRAHAM never EXISTED: Abraham is a “Figment” of someones IMAGINATION……95% of Todays BIBLES are made up stories…..
Edrina answer:
OH yeah Abram: Genesis 11:27 “ And Terah lived sevrty years, and begat Abram, Nahor and Haran
Keep bloging I real enjoy reader your blog. There can Only Be One.
Why cant you answer any of my question about what is your AMEN-RA?
What is his Make-Up? What is his Purpose? How can I see Him in Atom,In a Cell, In the Earth or In Anything? That is not Made with Human hands.
Kered says:
1.While Kemet/Egypt was in their 17th Dynastic ERA…their is “NO” evidence of any other “Culture of people on earth…..Because those others were yet “BARBARIANS”……..not yet Civilised to document anything………..
Do you understand now?????
Edrina Answer:
Evidence is so clear when you take In Account the Whole HISTORY of Man. Not in part. Worlds were concurred by saying that they (anyone whom they want to concur) were Barbarians (Because they say they did have Culture) Who were these People Native American, Africa (BlacK) what about Aztec. And that list can go on and on.
Kered says:
1.I think its in Mathew were the Messhiah says: “I will replace their stone hearts with that of Flesh hearts”……It is said that the “Hearts of men you will find Evil or Good…..correct??
Again It take a Vision and Revelation to get any understanding from the bible other wise you but your means in it. It must come from the Creator because it His Story. Not Mine not yours.
Edrina Answer:
Jeremiah 31: 31-33 “Behold the days come, saith Yahweh, that I make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was husband unto them saith Yahweh. But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put My law in their inward parts and write it in their hearts and be their Elohim and they shall be my people.
Now stone heart is the Old covenant which was written on stone table and Flesh Heart is the New Covenant written without pen or ink. Now Yahweh is NOT go to wait tell your dead to Judge nobody. You are Judge now. Still your worship Amen-Ra physical so not spiritually. So remember what you say that Your Heart will be weighted. And Remember that the Pharoah whom also to be consider to be gods also. They believed in a Physical After Life that’s why they had Mummies and keep there heart in Jars. If they were spiritual worship there would need all that. I guess you need to do the same thing… To inherent your Kingdom.
It’s the Thoughts of A MAN (AMEN) you will find Evil or Good. The Brain is governer all. The Brain cause your Heart to function. Not the other way around.
Your body Example: Head Area, Chest Area and Abdominal Area
Tabernacle:Most Holy Place(Yahweh) Head , Holy Place( Elohim) Chest and Outer Court(Yahshua)Abominal
Yahweh: Exdous 24: 8-9And Let them (Hebrew Jews) make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them. According to all that I shew thee, after the pattern of the tabernacle, and the pattern of all the instruments[furniture] thereof, even so shall ye make it.
Now this Tabernacle had a Most Holy Place a Holy Place and Court that went round about (Outer Court) There where three compartments but one Tabernacle. In the Most Holy Place was Ark of the Covenant. In the Holy Place was Alter of Incense, 7 Branch Lampstnd and Table of Shewbread. In the Court that Went round about was the Cup of Holy Anointing Oil the Brazen Laver and Altar of Sin Sacrifice.
You have Head, Chest and Abominal Area but Kered you are only One person. Your Creator is One there are no co partner issue out who does what where or why its Just One Just like you and me. You can’t divide the Head chest and Abominal Area and expect to live. So is Yahweh Unit of the Spirit. You cant divid Yahweh up and say Yahweh is one thing Elohim is another And Yahshua is another. They are One Yahweh is Elohim Yahweh is Yahshua. Again Yahweh is SPIRIT.
Keep bloging I real enjoy reader your blog. There can Only Be One.
January 2, 2009 at 10:12 pm |
Rationalize
One entry found.
Main Entry: ra·tio·nal·ize
Pronunciation: \ˈrash-nə-ˌlīz, ˈra-shə-nə-ˌlīz\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): ra·tio·nal·ized; ra·tio·nal·iz·ing
Date: 1803
transitive verb
1: to bring into accord with reason or cause something to seem reasonable: as a: to substitute a natural for a supernatural explanation of b: to attribute (one’s actions) to rational and creditable motives without analysis of true and especially unconscious motives ; broadly : to create an excuse or more attractive explanation for
2: to free (a mathematical expression) from irrational parts
3: to apply the principles of scientific management to (as an industry or its operations) for a desired result (as increased efficiency)
intransitive verb
: to provide plausible but untrue reasons for conduct
Its so comical that the members of IDMR continue to play the game of “Rationalization”……You in the IDMR “Substitute something thats a “Natural” cause for “Supernatural causes” with “Plausible” but “Untrue” reasons………
Just remember Edrina: There was no Yahweh, No Hebrew and No Tabernacle prior to 2000b.c.e
So if it did not exist in the beginning then it certainly is “NOT” Plausible today……
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
January 2, 2009 at 10:32 pm |
My oh My….Edrina and Sam:
This is where Dr. Kinley got his painting of the Tabernacle…..Now if this was the “Dwelling Place for God the Creator” how is it that it can be reconstructed and mass produced?????
Those sacred Temples you see in the valley of the Kings, in the Nile Valley, The Giza Pyramids the Great Heruakhmet/The Sphinx…..CANNOT BE REPRODUCE AT ALL…….Man has yet to figure out how those monuments and Pyramids were constructed……..
A JAPANESE company tried to “replicate” the Pyramids and FAILED………
And you talk about the Tabernacle like thats something special……..I can go online and by parts to build one……LMAO
PLEASE……can you go online and buy parts to build the GREATEST monuments ever built by HUMANS??????………No you Cannot.
But anyway…..you know that the Tabernacle was here before Dr. Kinley was ever a thought….Correct
So all of a sudden in 1931, Dr. Kinley gets a Vision/Revelation from the Creator of the Universe telling him the Correct way to worship him……
Now Yahweh already did this with Moses on Mt.Sinai and John on Isle Patmos….correct
So if Yahweh gave Moses and John the “Wrong” vision/revelation….how do you know he did not give Dr. Kinley a wrong vision/revelation..????
I love your BLOGS also Edrina and Sam…….Its so Amusing…..LMAO
January 3, 2009 at 1:27 am |
Kered:
I have read all your bloging and I see that a lot of the blogers answer you question. But I have seen that all you do is make a Statement about Amen-Ra.
The Pyramids are eroding for years (there Stone) Take a look at the Sphinx. And you are still talking physical, Not Spiritually.
One Simple question I repeat over and over Show me HOW AMEN-RA is I your Human body that was before a Pyramid. If AMEN-RA were the true Creator of this world He (AMEN-RA) would be able to put his handwork on his creature. Isn’t that true or not?
Wouldn’t it be more important to AMEN-RA? (Because, the discussion is the Soul not a Physical building) If you were required to know something of your Creator would it be so simple just to look at you self and See him?
If you can’t answer this simple question you just have a belief Your Body is a True Witness of The Creator of Heavens and Earth. We are higher then any creature that the Creator made. We can reason understand and comprehend. No other life forum does this but us.
Again We are made in the likeness of the Creator.
There Can Only Be One.
January 3, 2009 at 3:04 am |
Kered,
When i speak about the body im speaking on the creator leaving his mark on us, leaving his signature sort of like Leonardo, or Michelangelo in there paintings. But Edrina already cleared that up for me. Think about it.
Second please just google “Noah’s Ark Found’ and “Exodus the Movie” both will take you too some good sources as well as photos for both and a movie for Exodus showing divers under the Red Sea. Plain and simple.
i say Ame-ra is weak for giving up his name to ANOTHER GOD because if he is THE ONE, he cannot be fault under temptation!!! Am i right or Wrong? Yes Yahweh has let his name be lost in the ages, but like WE said our creator has a purpose and a plan!! Does Amen-Ra? can you tell me his purpose and plan? Why is it in Egypt no one can agree over one God but worship many….Its Horus this week wait no it Isis this week, oh no it Amen-Ra today.
Satan has indeed mislead the whole world we can agree on that, but what your talking is totally ridiculous! Egypt is in the same condition it was left in after Moses took Yahwehs ppl from that land to Cannans Land! you guys still worshippin so many different idols.
How can you disregard such testimonals from joshepus or Eurebsis who are well know scholars back during that time. Who both agree the Messiah died and rose again and was seen by his followers. I guess the Romans did some more plagiarizing as well too.
January 3, 2009 at 5:03 pm |
I went to a IDMR class and I found it interesting yet upsetting at the same time.There is a great Divide between IDMR itself.My problem was with worshipping Dr.Kinley instead of Yahshua the Messiah .I agree that Dr.Kinley recieved the gift of prophecy and so did others,but we are not worshipping them.It is almost like they took a page out of the Roman Catholics faith,by making saints out of them.Once you start doing that you are taking your eye off the ball.There is only one way to salvation and that is through Yahshua the Messiah. Here is what Dr.Kinley said about the matter.
That’s what you come down here for is to know something about Yahweh our Father, not old Henry C.
……From Lecture: Ever presence of Yahweh , pg 23, paragraph 4
Now I said there’s no salvation in the Honorable Elijah Mohammed! There is no salvation in Pope Paul! See and there is no salvation in Henry Clifford Kinley! And there’s no salvation in your pastor.
……From Lecture: Only name for Salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 5, Paragraph 22
Now you can’t go by the honorable Elijah Mohammed. You cannot go by Bahula. You can not go by Paul. You can not go by Peter and you can not go by Henry C. Kinley.
……From Lecture: Living the life; Love of Yahweh, page 4, Paragraph 1
DR KINLEY: God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Henry C. Kinley
STUDENT BODY: No
DR KINLEY: You see how stupid we are. That whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
……From Lecture: Living the life; Love of Yahweh, page 7, paragraph 10
belonging to the Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research, that’s not gonna do it. You have to be in the kingdom of Yahshua. Now that’ll get it. Somebody says, ‘Well I’m following Kinley,” ? that’s not gonna get it.
……From Lecture: Living the life; Love of Yahweh, page 18, paragraph 7
Henry C. Kinley is not the teacher. Moses is not the teacher. Jeremiah was not the teacher. Paul was not the teacher. Comforter [is the teacher]
……From Lecture: Mystery of Iniquity, pg 13, paragraph 6
I want you to know that you cannot be saved in the name of Henry Clifford Kinley.
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 2, paragraph 1
Now I said there’s no salvation in the Honorable Elijah Mohammed! There is no salvation in Pope Paul! See and there is no salvation in Henry Clifford Kinley! And there’s no salvation in your pastor.
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 5, paragraph 22
Elijah Mohammed or Henry C. Kinley, we’re not the teacher! Freddy Allen and Bishop Williams, they’re not the teacher. ? I’m the little shot. ? Yahshua the Messiah is the teacher.
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 12, paragraph 7
The Honorable Elijah Mohammed or Henry C. Kinley, they’re not the teacher
……From Lecture: Truth through Dr Kinley?s vision, page 6, paragraph 1
Grace is not a work; Grace is an unmerited favor. You can’t merit salvation by something you do other than believe on Yahshua the Messiah.
……From Lecture: Carnal Ordinances, Page 3, paragraph 7
I have come in his name. I have said many times to you that it was Yahshua the Messiah that speaks through this body.
……From Lecture: 69 Convention; Discernment, Earthly name, Heavenly Name, pg 3, paragraph 1
I’ve never tried to preach nothing in, in the name of Henry C. Kinley.
……From Lecture: 69 Convention; Discernment, Earthly name, Heavenly Name, pg 3, paragraph 11
Yahweh is all in all. That’s all there is. Elohim is Yahweh, title for Him in shape and form, incorporeal too. And Yahshua is the name of Him manifested in the flesh; that’s all there is.
……From Lecture: Explanation of the Godhead, pg 15, paragraph 1
THE TRUE GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM CAN ONLY BE PREACHED BY USING THE TRUE NAME OF YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH
……From Lecture: Gospel must be preached before the end comes [Pamphlet]
……See 9th aim
……See Acts 4:10-12
……See Ez 33:31
Justus Kristus is a Hindu idol, sun God, a Greek sun god, now that’s who Jesus Christ is. Now look you, don’t you start sassing me. His name is Yahshua the Messiah not Jesus Christ and there’s no other name given under heaven whereby man can be saved, saving the name of Yahshua the Messiah. Now did I get it over clear to you?
……From Lecture: Mystery of Iniquity cries Peace and Miscalculates His Coming, page 18, paragraph 1
Reader: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Spirit, which the Father will send in My Name?
Dr. Kinley: Now you see that? HE AIN?T SENDING HIM IN HENRY CLIFFORD?S NAME! He ain?t sending Him in Elijah Mohammed, He ain?t sending Him in the name of John the Baptist. He?s not sending Him in the name of Jeremiah, Ezekiel and none of the rest of ?em. He?s not sending Him in the name of Moses. And you can?t be (we just read over there in Acts of Apostles) you can?t be saved in no other name! LOOK FORWARD TO BEING LOST in the name of the honorable Elijah Mohammed! Huh?
……From Lecture: Only name for salvation is in Yahshua the Messiah, pg 11, paragraph 4
There are sites that is full of information and they are ThePatternOfEverything.Org and http://www.soundingthetrumpet.com
January 5, 2009 at 2:14 pm |
I too have gone to a class where replacing Yahshua with Dr.Kinley and in my Heart it was upsetting.I have found sites that contain a lot of information about Yahshua as he really is.They are http://www.plim.org ,www.thepatternofeverything.org and http://www.soundingthetrumpet.com
January 5, 2009 at 3:14 pm |
What is Yahweh’s PURPOSE and PLAN???????
It amuses me to see we have people like Edrina and Sam that will hold on to teachings that have “NO” validity…….
I said this more than once AND IT IS FACT…….If YAHWEH and YAHSHUA was not here PRIOR to 2000b.c.e………….Then how can they be the Salvation of the HUMAN RACE?????????
You people “FAIL” to realize that “CIVILIZATION” was here “THOUSANDS” of years “BEFORE” the story of “ADAM/EVE” was told…………
In order to have “PROOF” of something we must “FIRST” have “PHYSICAL EVIDENCE”…………..
This is where the IDMR take control of those who are “WEAK MINDED” and those who fall under the description of CARTER G. WOODSON’s statement on mind control……..
To deny the physical you are denying any kind of “EVIDENCE” that can be brought against what the IDMR or anyone is TEACHING……..and that’s SATANIC………
You can not deny “PHYSICAL EVIDENCE”……..if that is the case you people are such “HYPOCRITS”……Can I prove it YES.
That HOLY NAME BIBILE is a “PHYSICAL THING”……
Those “CHARTS’ you have in CLASS are “PHYSICAL THINGS”……
You continue to deny its not about the physical but the spiritual……Then why are you people so quick to use your “PHYSICAL BODY” as “EVIDENCE” of YAHWEH???????……………..
If you are going to tell me about some plan of YAHWEH….what will you use to prove his PLAN other than something “PHYSICAL”???????
ONE MORE POINT……….You people have the word “Meta-Physical” in the name of your school…….Do you see the “Hypocracy” in your school???
Is it not a fact that you believe that “YAHWEH” was in “ADAM”…correct?
Then what was “ADAM”?…….Was he “NOT” a “PHYSICAL” being?????
PLEASE…..you people are “KILLING” me with all your contradictions and hypocracy……
You CANNOT deny the “FACT and EVIDENCE” that “CIVILIZATION” was here THOUSANDS of years before we had a HEBREW, MUSLIM and a CATHOLIC on this EARTH…………..
Dr. Kinley brought to you what “HE” perceived to be the truth about Yahweh……Was Yahweh worshipped before DR. KINLEY came on the SCENE??????…..Yes Yahweh was worshipped before Dr. Kinley came on the scene…….and Yahweh was “NOT” worshipped the way Dr. Kinley say it was…..
The original “Hebrews” do not-did not associate the “TABERNACLE” with the “HUMAN BODY”………..
This is what people must recognize with these “FALSE PROPHETS”……They will come on the scene and change what was already here before them…..WITHOUT ANY “PHYSICAL EVIDENCE”…
Its like having your 10 year old telling his PARENTS what life is ALL ABOUT………The Mother and Father has been her say 60 years and the Son only 10 years yet the Son will TEACH his PARENTS right from wrong…….And if that be the case then something is “WRONG with that FAMILY”…………
Peace in the name of Amen-Ra
January 5, 2009 at 5:44 pm |
Edrina:
You are so far from the TRUTH its pityful……….
Did the CREATOR make “EVERYTHING in his LIKENESS”??????…….If you answer NO then you just validated what I said about you are So far from the TRUTH…..
If he did not make EVERYTHING in his LIKENESS…..then who created all the other living “SPECIES” on this EARTH?????
Is there a “DOG” God???? Is there a “CAT” God?????? Is there a “FISH” God????? Is there a “TREE” God?????……
To put yourself above what the CREATOR has made is CRAZY……
Did you know that “ALL” living species “COMMUNICATE” according to their “NATURE”?????….
Whose “NATURAL SENSES” are superior?????? The Animals or the Man?????
Yes, the SUN is 93mil miles from earth and we can see it because of its DIAMETER……..But if I put you 3000 Feet above ground will your “EYES” see a “MOUSE” on the ground?????…No…A “HAWK” or a “FALCON” or a “EAGLE” can……..LETS take something that we cannot see LIKE SOUND and SMELL….
Can we hear and smell as a “DOG”……No. Can we hear and “SENSE” vibration in the water like a “FISH”?????…….No
Also Edrina…….The only “PROOF” I have and “NEED” of “Amen-Ra” is ALL around you…….
There is no need to “Rationalize” the “EXISTANCE” of the “CREATOR” like the IDMR “Brain Wash” its members to do…..
Where do you think the IDMR and others get its notion of the CREATOR as a PURE SPIRIT??????………Amen-Ra is a “Pure Spirirt” that stepped foot into a “Human FORM”……..The reason he used a “Human Form” was “NOT” to prove how “EVIL” the HUMAN is like you all try to prove……..
He used the Human Form to prove his “EXISTANCE”………..Period.
Now….If you want to be Technical
According to the “First Creation” story told…that which is called the “Ennead or Heliopolis Creation”……(remember there were 3 stories told that predates ADAM/EVE)
But According to the Ennead “8 Dieties” were created along with “ATUM” or “Amen” which made “(9)”…..and where do you think the Catholics get that word “AMEN” from……Hmmm
Now stay with me………This is proof of “Amen-Ra”….
We have 9 “Heavenly Bodies” in the SOLAR SYSTEM…correct? And did you know that the number (9) is a “DIVINE” number???…..Can I prove it YES
It is said that in any school of learning from Kindergarten to the Unversity level that “Mathematics” is the only subject that is “UNIVERSAL”…….meaning that we cannot label it as belonging to one group of people….it applies to “ALL”…….
This is the GREATNESS of the ENNEAD AND “Amen-Ra”
If I take that number (9) and multiply it by any other number under the “SUN”…….DO YOU KNOW THAT WHEN THE ANSWER YOU GET IS BROKEN DOWN TO ITS LOWEST TERM IT WILL BE (9)???????
Example: 9×2546= 22914….Pay Attention….2+2+9+1+4 = 18 1+8=(9)
ALSO……if I Add (9) to any other number under the “SUN”…..for example: 9+4265…..No pay attention….that = 4274..
If I add 4+2+6+5…that = 17
If I add 4+2+7+4…that = 17
When “Adding 9″ it wiil come back to the sum total of the number being added….
YOU CANNOT DO THIS WITH ANY OTHER NUMBER……THAT INCLUDEDS THE NUMBER 7…
THATS PROOF OF THE “Ennead Heliopolis Creation”…….
PEACE IN THE NAME OF THA ALMIGHTY Amen-Ra
January 6, 2009 at 3:15 am |
Again you have missed Understanding:
1.Kered said: To put yourself above what the CREATOR has made is CRAZY……
Reread my statement January 3, 2009 at 1:27 am
1.Edrina Answer: Wouldn’t it be more important to AMEN-RA? (Because, the discussion is the Soul not a Physical building) If you were required to know something of your Creator would it be so simple just to look at your self and See him?
If you can’t answer this simple question you just have a belief Your Body is a True Witness of The Creator of Heavens and Earth. We are higher then any creature that the Creator made. We can reason understand and comprehend. No other life forum does this but us.
I said, “ We can reason understand and comprehend.” See Animal worship the Creator by Spirit Law. They (Animal) don’t need to reason or to understand or comprehend anything about the creator because they already KNOW. There is no miss understanding between the Animals and the Earth when it comes to Yahweh. (That Just You.) Another thing Animal cannot Rule man. But Man can rule over the animal. My Dog doesn’t take care of me I am not there pet. It’s the other way around.
The Dog Bark Wolf, Wolf The Cats Cry is ME OW, The OCEAN WAVES rolls in and rolls out. The Birds flap there wings Up and Down. Your Heart Beat 1,2 You walk with a rise and a fall. Like I said before the TREES Just STANDS STILL in that Y Shape and PRASIE YAHWEH. SIMPLE NOT “ Rationalize”.
It’s a simple fact that a tree stands up in a Y shape its is simple that Your own hand have Y’s though out it’s a Knew fact that your Veins branch off into Y’s. Now Yahweh Stamp that Letter Y though out Your Body. Not A MAN (AMEN)
Because it declare in the Name Of Yahweh “ let Everything that breathe” and the Earth shows his handwork.
Psalm 19 “The heavens declare the glory of Elohim and the firmament sheweth his handywork.”
YAHWAH
I say again that Yahweh is Spirit: There are NO deities or other gods besides him. Yahweh has NO CO-PARTNERS: AMEN-RA and his Hundreds CO (gods) PARTNER A god for every aspect of life.
Now that OTHER things that has many NAMES and has many helper is SATAN: “I will be like the most High.” He has CO-PARTNERS. Demons, Devils, Adversaries, Hades etc., it has a Very long list of Names.
Yahweh is El It is the Source and Substance, the Limits and the Bounds of everything both invisible and visible. This Pure Spirit state of Yahweh can be likened unto a cloud which has no conceivable shape or form, and in this Spirit is Intelligence, Wisdom, Knowledge, Beauty, Love, Justice, Power, Foundation and Strength (9). These attributes become united together in a conceivable shape and form, which Moses viewed as the Great Elohim. This Elohim then was Pure Spirit (Yahweh) in shape and form abiding within still as yet unformed Spirit. (It did not take all of the Pure Spirit to form the Super Incorporeal Form of Elohim). Then Elohim creates the physical man, Adam, in His likeness and image, and some four thousand (4000) years later Elohim, Himself, is manifested in a physical body and walked around in the Universe that He had created (John 1:14; 1 Tim. 3:16). This transmutation of Pure Spirit without shape and form into a Super Incorporeal shape and form and then into a physical form sets up a pattern that the whole Universe testifies of, and confirms.
I’ll SAY IT AGAIN, That YAHWEH DOES NOT DWELL IN A TEMPLE MADE WITH HANDS.
NO MAN went into YOUR MOTHERS WOMB and Fashion YOUR BODY. NO MAN. (AMAN)
THE PHRIMDS the SPINX are made with Man’s HAND. THEY are physical structure. You and I a physical living SPIRIT being. We have a SOUL. You ONLY have ONE Soul not many souls.
Your Creator Is One Unity there are NO other gods deities beside HIM. Deut.6: 4 Hear, O Israel: Yahweh our Elohim is One Yahweh.
Again Amen-Ra has other gods doing his business for him. Amen-Ra gives his praise to another.
Thoth
Other Names: Tehuti, Thout, Djehuti, Zehuti.
Description: Invented hieroglyphics and numbers. First and greatest of magicians. Inventor of the 4 laws of magick. His two wives were Seshat and Nehmauit. He had powers greater then Osiris and Ra.
Rules Over: Magick, writing, inventions, the arts, divination, commerce, healing, initiation, music, prophecy, tarot, success, wisdom, medicine, astronomy, geometry, surveying, drawing, sciences, measurement of time, all calculations and inventories, archives, judgment, oracles, predictions, rituals, the law, astrology, alphabet, mathematics, speech, grammar, arbitration, balance, mental powers, the Moon, botany, theology, hymns and prayers, reading, oratory, arbitration, peace, advice, learning, books, truth, akashic records, the moon, fate, arbitration, advice
Now Egyptian Prayed to the god whom they needed to given thanks to or to the god whom they need at that particular time. So if they had a good farming season they would give thanks unto Osiris. If they wanted Knowledge and healing powers they would pray to Thoth.
See Amen-Ra is not Thoth they are SEPARATE in Purpose and in Order of the god and goddess of Egypt. Yahweh is a Unity not Many gods Nor does Yahweh have many god deities working from Him ALL praise goes to Yahweh not a helper.
Another thing AMEN-RA still is JOHNNY COME LATE even in Egyptian gods.
You said, Not me that Amen-Ra was the creator of all. So he would be first to be seen in Egyptians history Is It True? Remember AMEN and Ra were 2 Separate gods and worship Separately. Later on in Egyptian History they were combine.
I say it again I don’t worship A MAN or A MEN: (AMEN-RA) or A Ra the Ray from the Sun. I don’t worship the things. I don’t give Praises to any other gods or goddess.
Again I said, “that MOSES wrote the First 5 book of the bible which is the LAW Exodus was the first book and Genesis was take out of the book of Exodus.” The King James Version:
Kered: says there are 3 account of the Creation.
Edrina Ask: Which one is Right?
Moses went you the Mt 3 times. (And another thing Your READING Moses Vision) There are Account of Moses Vision in the King James Bible.
Now Moses has a Vision like I said before How Yahweh Cause the Creation to come to be.
I said again, to UNDERSTAND any thing about OUR Creator YOU Must have a VISION (not VERSION) and REVELATION.
I GOING to try to keep it simple so that you understand why it may seem that way
1.Kered Says: The original “Hebrews” do not-did not associate the “TABERNACLE” with the “HUMAN BODY”………..
Edrina Answers: Tabernacle Webster’s New World Dictionary
a.a temporary shelter, as a tent a dwelling place the human body considered as the dwelling place of the soul a shrine, niche, etc. with a canopy a place of worship, esp. one with a large seating capacity the portable sanctuary carried by the Jews during the Exodus: Ex. 25, 26, 27
2 Peter 1:14 Know that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Savior Yahshua the Messiah hath showed me.
So What is Peter taking about it Sure was a building it was the body.
Psalm 27:4-6 One thing have I desired of Yahweh that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of Yahweh all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of Yahweh, and to enquire in his temple. For in the time of trouble he shall hide in me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me: he shall set me u upon a rock. And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me; therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea. I will sing praises unto Yahweh.
Now that Tabernacle which pitch in the Wildness of Sinai was give to Moses by Yahweh our Elohim to Show HIM (Moses) that Everything is made and operate by this PATTERN. That TABERNACLE (PATTERN) Which Moses saw was ELOHIM. Moses Saw in a Vision while on top Mt Sinai Yahweh transform into Elohim Exodus 24:9:10 “Then went Up Moses, and Aaron Nadab, and Abihu and seventy of the elders of Israel: And they saw the Elohim of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.”
Now look this was Written way before Man could go out into outer space. The Earth looks like a Sapphire Stone.
Now that body of heaven in his Clearness is Yahweh (Spirit) taking on a shape and a forum as Elohim (the Word or Son)
When you see the word (WORD) came unto somebody it not that bible it is Elohim is that Word. They are having a Vision not a Version.
Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of Yahweh came unto Abram in a vision.
All you make is statement about AMEN-RA.
A Written fact that has been research about Egypt History is this: There are Gods and Goddess of Egyptian Culture. Right within that one word Culture is Cult. You and Your One sided view of Egyptian History can not change it. The Very First Word that comes into connect with Amen-Ra is gods and goddess of Egypt.
They’re NO (Not One) Historic fact that DO state that Ancient Egypt Was a Monotheistic Society. (ONLY Pharoah Akhenaten was Monotheistic) The Pharoah Akhenaten introduces the Worship of One Supreme being (Monotheism). And When Akhenaten died they (Egyptian) went back to there same belief Culture of Polytheisms. (The WORSHIP of MANY Gods.)
So, If you think that these research have lie on your God and they are wrong. You need to tell them to Correct Every last History book Every Last Encyclopedia, Etymology Every last Dictionary References and web site.
Yahweh is One. NOT many gods no co-god no co-creator. There can only be One.
Kered says:
1.But According to the Ennead “8 Dieties” were created along with “ATUM” or “Amen” which made “(9)”…..and where do you think the Catholics get that word “AMEN” from……Hmmm
Edrina Answer: Are you reading what you Write: Deity, idols (AMEN) A Man A men.
Ennead were the nine great Osirian gods: Atum, Shu, Tefnut, Geb, Nut, Osiris, Isis, Set and Nephthys. The Term is also used to describe the great council of gods as well as a collective term for all the gods.
Now each one of these gods performs a different purpose. So Atum (Amen) has co-partners like I said. There is NO Collection of Deity, IDOLS in Heaven with Yahweh, Only with AMEN-Ra.
Use the COMMON Sense that your Creator gives You. If you made something why would you give the credit to another. There is no story in the Bible that Yahweh gives credit to any idol. Yahweh said he Destroy Egypt and brought plagues. Yahweh said he Destroy Sodom and Gomorrah Yahweh, Said to Moses I will get my glory.
Yahweh said, “The Burden of Egypt. Behold, Yahweh rideth upon a swift cloud, and shall come into Egypt: and the idols of Egypt shall be moved at his presence, and the heart of Egypt shall melt in the midst of it. And I (Yahweh) will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his neighbor; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. And the Spirit of Egypt shall fail in the midst thereof; and I (Yahweh) will destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmer, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to wizards.”
And Yahweh shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall know Yahweh in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea, they shall vow a vow unto Yahweh and perform it.
So Why does Isaiah speak of the Egyptian confusion? Turn away from the worships of “Deity and false idols”.
There can ONLY be One.
January 6, 2009 at 5:02 am |
Sam: Sorry for the Type Errror.
Type Word Error (Sacrifice) Satisfy
Type Word Error (Scarification) Satisfaction.
December 31, 2008 at 8:31 am
Edrina miss type a two words in the sentences below.
1.First Dr. Kinley said he had a Divine Vision and Revelation given to him by GOD (Yahweh) himself in the year of 1931. But, He said don’t take my word for it but make me prove to you are (Satisfy). (Paraphrasing) Now each one has are own level (Satisfaction). One person may take a little another make may take a lot.
When in Error of thing It nothing to say that I Am error.
January 6, 2009 at 3:18 pm |
Gee Edrina……
Your Mind is “Shackled” more than I thought……Like I said before you can “Quote” the BIBLE as to what “Yahweh” said:
But what you can not “PROVE” is the Existance of a “Hebrew” or “Yahweh” BEFORE the year 2000b.c.e……
If he was not the CREATOR before 2000b.c.e……then how can he be the creator after the fact???????
Please read the BIBLE CAREFULLY…..”Yahweh” clearly states that he is the “GOD” of “Israel” First…..Can I Prove it…YES
The fairy tale story of Adam/Eve describes the beginning of the “HEBREW”….Correct And Yahweh is to lead the Hebrew to the Promised land…which is “Israel”…Correct Now, lets look on the map and see just where Israel is located and HOW BIG IT IS……Keep in mind the “FACT” of CIVILIZATION” being here before ADAM/EVE….
It must be an “ENSLAVED” mind to BELIEVE that a MADE up god named “YAHWEH” is the CREATOR of all when he has CHOSEN a “SELECT” few to be his people and LEAD them to a country that is not bigger than the state of RHODE ISLAND……..When in “FACT” PEOPLE were here THOUSANDS of years …..”BEFORE” adam/eve…..
Before the HEBREW came “Unto”himself or before he was “CIVILIZED”….there was “NO” Distinction of “Religion” among the people who was “Already Civilised” on this earth…..They all believed in the same GOD and “ONE” Religion…….
The man that changed that one Religion was “Amenhotp IV or Ahkenaten”…….
It is said that we have a “History” of Ahkenaten and a “Memory” of Moses….Why is that?
We have “Physical evidence” of Ahkenaten but only stories of “Moses”….Which should tell you that Moses and Ahkenaten is one in the same person……
PLEASE READ ABOUT AHKENATEN….YOU WILL FIND THAT HIS “MOTHER” WAS A “HEBREW”……HE WAS DRIVEN OUT OF KEMET/EGYPT BECAUSE HE STARTED A “NEW” RELIGION…..HE TOOK HIS FOLLOWERS TO “MOUNT SINAI”…….THERE HE WAS KILLED BY HIS OWN FOLLOWERS……
I gave you eveidence of the existence of CIVILIZATION well before the story of ADAM/EVE……And you still “Contend” with ADAM/EVE….GEEEZ
Fact:
Their is “NO” evidence that we had on this “EARTH” prior to 2000b.c.e::::
1). A Hebrew
2). A god named Yahweh
3). A Tabernacle
We have among us today FACTS from people who wrote and studied and found “FACTS” and “EVIDENCE” who are from different Religious backgrounds…..People who practise “Judiasm, Christianity, Islam….People who were here BEFORE Dr. Kinley are bringing these “FACTS” to the “FOREFRONT”
And as it was in the “BEGINNING” so shall it be in the “END”……And I am not speaking about that fairy tale story of ADAM/EVE.
But believe what you will……
I find it very “Disturbing” that people like Edrina and Sam and those of the IDMR and others are Praising the people of “Israel” and the God of “Israel”……when those people do not “Identify” with what you are PRAISING………
QUESTION?????……….How many different “Sects” we have of Yahweh?
We have Hundreds of congregations praising “YAHWEH” in different doctrines…..So whats going to happen is “Yahweh” will put all you people against one another and the confusion will never end until you kill each other off…….Can I Prove it….Yes.
The people in the “Middle-East” have been killing each other off for centuries……And “Israel” is in the Middle of it……and it going on as we speak today.
PEACE in the name of Amen-Ra
January 6, 2009 at 4:39 pm |
Edrina:
You said that you and your IDMR members do not PRAISE a MAN……
If you read my first Blog I said I used to attend these classes for a few months…..I have seen your members get up there and “Worship” Dr. Kinley….Calling him “YAHWEH” and “YAHSHUA” in the flesh…..
You can not deny what I have proven to you…..
Can you deny how the number 9 is DIVINE and how it operates like no other number and how it relates to the “Ennead of Heliopolis”????
Yes…the people of Kemet/Egypt had other “Dieties”……BUT……if you read and understand the “Philosophy” of that…you would see that they never “SAID” Tehuti/Thoth, Auset/Isis, Ausar/Osirius was the CREATOR of ALL……..Thoth, Isis, Osirius are “GREEK names….and remember the GREEKS came on the scene around 1000b.c.e………
But I must say to you Edrina that you have “Validated” what I have been telling you about CREATION……The truth is right before your eyes yet you refuse to see it….
I told you there were 3 creation stories told in Kemet…..RIGHT? And we can Translate that as being 3 visions/revelations of creation because “SOMEONE” had to be a witness to tell those 3 theories…Correct.?
Now pay attention……
In your on words from the BIBLE you QUOTE it is said that “MOSES” received (3) visions/revelations on Mount Sinai….Correct?
This is “PROOF” of what I am telling you because “HISTORY” can prove that those CREATION theories from “KEMET” PREDATES that of the MODERN day BIBLE…………
Again Edrina…the bible is a “PLAGARIZATION” from the Religion of KEMET…..Like it or not…AND THE PROOF IS WRITTEN ALL IN THE BIBLE…….
IT IS SAID THAT THE SAFEST PLACE TO HIDE THE TRUTH IS WRITTEN IN PLAIN SIGHT…….BUT YOUR MIND MUST FIRST BE UNLOCKED TO RECOGNIZE IT
Peace to you Edrina
January 7, 2009 at 3:14 pm |
Please tell me how many sects you know of that praise Yahweh?
Also yes the people in Irasel dont agree with what we are preaching, why? Because they are in Judaism majority of them.
Judaism- believing that the Yahshua the Messiah is not “God” coming to rescue his people from his sins. So they only believe in Yahweh thats being talked bout in the Torah (first five books of Moses)
Because of that their is seperation point blank.
LOLZ at your story ok check this out:
Adam/Eve tells about the beginning of creation the beginning of the Hebrew chain. Check it, adam/eve were first on the planet with a conscious knowing of “God” as i would state. Now technically we dont know if there was civilization outside the Garden. As a matter fact your story could ride along side with the story of Adam/Eve.
Yes one language, there was never any religion, religion is made man and thats the difference between us. Never was a church but a temple/synagouge, also was suppose to be an assembly not church as well. Here look:
Church (taken from dictionary.com)
1. a building for public Christian worship.
2. public worship of God or a religious service in such a building: to attend church regularly.
3. (sometimes initial capital letter) the whole body of Christian believers; Christendom.
Now Church is associated with nothing but Christian believers. Hell half the Christian world has no idea who Christendom is and how he separated from the Roman Catholic Sect. Unbelievable.
We all dont worship the same person, “God” is merely a title and not a name. All Gods have a name and you know that. So i would assume we can agree on that.
Basically point blank, Yahweh proved he was the only by making your Egypt Gods and Pharoahs look terrible. Not only just him but he EliYAH and YHWH LOL when they had the showdown with Baal!!!!
Ok on to what members do in IDMR, we as individual are not responsible for what someone else does. Dr. Kinley taught that there was only one name unto salvation and that was Yahweh and Yahshua the Messiah. One person in class doesn’t speak for the whole institute. Ive seen it myself where Dr. Kinley is preached upon more than Yahshua and sometimes it drives me crazy even though most people say we are referring to his spirit. But you Kered have to understand this point just like most people cant seem to realize this as well. There is an opposing force.
We both agree there is a “negative” entity working in the mist. Correct?!?! There will never be a “perfect” place to go, where everyone is along the same accord. Why? Because even where the truth is preached negativity will follow. Why? Because that negative entity has to keep up with the game of the righteous. Therefore that whys the negative entity cant make a move until the righteous makes a move so he can copy it and try to twist it or basically “INFILTRATE” the position.
You have to walk with him yourself.
You can only speak for yourself so when u speak in class no one else can vouch for you. You speak on what Yahweh has revealed onto you. Now that doesnt mean its right its just your take on that particular subject.
We are all witnesses. (i.e. Crime Scence)
-Someone robs a bank
-They ask Kered, what did you see?
-He says i saw a guy in a black hat and brown jacket
They ask Edrina what did you see?
-I saw a someone carry a money bag and they had a black hat and brown jacket on
They aske me what did i see?
-I seen someone with a black hat and brown jacket walk out of a bank and hop in a F150.
Now we are all witnesses to ONE crime, just from different angles. You can only speak for yourself because in the end, he is judging you on your works and deeds not Edrina for what she said in IDMR on the stage floor or someone random person. You have to know in your heart and when you speak you have to speak the truth bottom line.
Now the difference between us and you Kered is that, you believe in many GODS you believe Atum is the creator, but it took TWO gods to form the one Amen Ra. We believe in the one, there is no GREATER, hes name means “self existent” that’s very powerful. Yes there are so many many sects, but which one is correct. One which is preaching about Yahweh and Yahshua as a whole. Furthermore you never answer my question on this:
How can you discredit the yahshua the messiah?
*One there are many Greek Scholars & Historians that say he was around in that time.
-Josephus Floreus (mispelled)
-Eurebis
*both at the same time, descirbe the Jewish War, fall of Jerusalem, and both say that Yahshua the messiah died preaching Yahweh’s Kingdom and reappeared to his followers. So how you discredit them when they say, the messiah was preaching about Yahweh and his kingdom himself?
January 7, 2009 at 3:19 pm |
***sorry about mis-spelled words, at work. Little grammar mistakes as well.
-Sam
January 7, 2009 at 4:06 pm |
Hello Sam and Edrina!
Sam you fail to read what I post……I said that you cannot find “EVIDENCE” of YAHWEH or YASHUA “Before” 2000b.c.e
Yes they came on the scene or should I say “made up” somewhere between 2000b.c.e and 1700b.c.e….The Civilization of Kemet/Egypt was going into its 18th Dynastic Era at that time or “The New Kingdom”……..
Sam my Brotha……I gave you an example of what I am trying to get across to you……
If you have a 10 year old child and the parents are 50 years old and that 10 year old is teaching the Parents about Life, then I say to you that your family is “dysfunctional”……
All the Religions of this modern day world……are nothing but CHILDREN of the Parents who gave them “BIRTH”…… and that “Parent” is…..Kemet/Egypt…..and at that time Kemet was considered to be “Upper and Lower” Kemet which comprised of “Sudan, Ethiopia and Cush”…….
I am not speaking about the Egypt of Today because those people over there right now are “NOT” the Original people from “Kemet”……
Now thats as plain and simple as I can get Sam……….
And you “CANNOT” deny the “FACTS and “EVIDENCE” that Civilization was here before we had a Hebrew, Judaeo-christianity, Islam, Greece or Rome…….
Your scenario of what diference it makes to have “Physical Evidence” was absolutely “Rediculous”…..
Sam….If a women claim that you “Raped” her and you are found guilty without any “Physical Evidence” which would include DNA……they send you to prison for 40 years just on “Circumstantial Evidence” and you only knew the women by “Association”…..how would you feel?????……..
Better yet Sam….Have you seen the Movie “Shawshank Redemption”?…..That was based on a true story……The guy was sent to prison for “Life” based on “Circumstantial Evidence”…….
What you are being taught in the IDMR is really screwing up your “Common Sense”………
SAM……You can go online and Look up the differnt “Sects” that Praise Yahweh……Please do not try and “Pretend” like you are not aware of the different “Sects” of Yahweh…….If you like I can give you the names of them……….
I will give you One……”The House of Yahweh”….Lead by a man Named……”Yishrayl Hawkins”…..I might have his first named spelled incorrectly…….A man of “Flesh and Bones” just like Dr. Kinley……Who claimed to have had a “Vision/Revelation” just like Dr. Kinley…….
Better Yet…..What about….”Yahweh Ben Yahweh”???……..
GEEEZZZZ…………I can go on and on
Peace my brotha….
January 7, 2009 at 6:59 pm |
Hello Edrina and Sam!!!
Check out this website……It “Validates” everything I have told you…..It clearly states that the “First Hebrew” was “Abraham who came on the scene in 1800b.c.e…….Please read the article.
Then scroll thru the website to your left and click on….”Dawn of Civilization”…….And see what it tells you…..That article was written by “Gaston Maspero” in the 18th century…..
He will tell you in the first Paragraph that “Civilization” was here on this Earth in Kemet/Egypt along the “Nile River”…..at least 11,000 years “BEFORE” the “Messhia…….
In the Heading below the title of the article……he gives the Date/Start of the “First Dynasty”……5800b.c.e
The Epoch of the first dynasty started around 3900b.c.e and the “First Monarch” or King or Pharoah was “Menes”……which the “Greeks Called him……”Zjoer or Djozer” is his African name……Kemet/Egypt is in Africa by the way…..
Please Wake Up…….ADAM/EVE has nothing to do with CREATION….Its a made-up Fairy Tale…..
Peace my Brotha and Sista…
January 7, 2009 at 8:28 pm |
I will look at your website when i get the chance. But yes i do some of the other sects. Those are the only ones that i know of honestly, IDMR, House of Yahweh, and i heard of Yahwehn Ben Yahweh, but im not too sure about his sect. Early on they were killing people and asking to bring back heads so “off the path” to me. But as far as House of Yahweh, whats wrong with a man getting a vision, why do you place a limit on the creator. Many people can get visions or divine vision, it all depends on whether or not what the phrophet says, “comes true or not” verse for that in the bible.
But bottom line if Adam/Eve or other creation fairy tales, the bottom line is, we are all traced back to one man/one woman! You can denounce that.
Kered says:
If you have a 10 year old child and the parents are 50 years old and that 10 year old is teaching the Parents about Life, then I say to you that your family is “dysfunctional”……
Sam syas:
You are thinking too physical man and not spirtual. Yes physical and spiritual go hand and hand but spiritual supersedes. A 10yr old child teaching stuff that it took Scholars and Priest years to comprehend and he does it in a short period of time is not dysfunctional but heavenly! In our world thats unnatural so that would mean he has to be spiritual inclined. (son of man) conscious of the father and knowing.
Think about it, You probably 25+ you have a kid 5yrs. Whether you believe it or not, that kid is the same age as you spiritually! Why? Because we are all spirit entities, we all come from the same spot! But here on the earth plane he is younger.
You can take stuff physcial stuff and compare to whats right in our world because our world is already backwards to how the spirit realm is.
January 7, 2009 at 8:28 pm |
*cant (in the last sentence)
January 7, 2009 at 10:30 pm |
Sam….I have some mispelled words also
correction on “messiah”…….
January 8, 2009 at 2:05 am |
YOUR BODY PROVE THAT EXISTENCE “EVIDENCE”
Again Yahweh has Existence before any thing was: Before 2000 b.c.e. There was Human being Animals, Plants, etc… Like I said before If the Creator of Heavens and Earth made it would he put his stamp on it? Like a Common Sense person would put that Name on a label or design. Just like you put your Name on your blog. It so Simple…
The Human body is before the build of a man structure. So let examine the body because we all know that Human body is not made or put together by A MAN: Your body will tell the History of Yahweh because it is his.
Also, I state the BIBILE was written before Scientists (Modern Day) understanding of the human body.
Human body: The circulatory system is as a branching tree (the Tree of life). These branches branch off in Y’s. Now let take something more COMPLEX The Spinal Nerves of there are 31 pairs proceeding out of the Spinal Cord (31×2=62) and the terminal thread of the Cord called the Filum Terminale, is the 63rd nerve and all 63 nerves conform unto the 63 generations of the flesh from Adam to Yahshua the Messiah.
Let look at the MALE sex cell (sperm) Head region (Yahweh), body (Elohim) and tail (Yahshua). And when the sperm cell has been magnified thousands of times its shape and form of the spinal cords of the embryo and adult.
You have Red blood, Cell White Blood Cells and Platelets. WHY is that?
Your Vertebral Column has 33 vertebrae (also called the backbone, spine, or spinal column and are irregular in shape. Why is that? Could it be that Yahshua the Messiah died of the cross at 33? Your backbone gives up the ability to walk UP RIGHT.
Your Finger only has 3 digits but its One finger. Why because Yahweh our Elohim are and Yahshua the Messiah are One.
Again You have a thigh, calf and foot but there is Only One Leg You have a Left and Right Leg if you count them together it would give you 2 thigh 2 calf and 2 feet, which would equal 6. Now you have two Arm (2) Shoulder, (2) elbow and (2) Wrist, which equal 6. Now add those parts that carry your Body (Tabernacle) around equal 12. Why is that? Yahweh said, Let the tribes of Israel encamp around the Tabernacle in the Wildness of Sinai.
The Tabernacle had 4 sides (East: Zebulon, Judah, and Issachar. North: Dan, Asher and Naphtali. West: Benjamin Manasseh and Ephraim and South: Gad, Simeon and Reuben) These are the 12 tribes of Israel. There were 3 tribes per side. 3×4=12 and the 12 disciples that gather around Yahshua the Messiah.
And Yahweh, Which was that Cloud in the wildness moves That Tabernacle in the wildness of Sinai moved. Likewise, Yahweh dwells in Your Most Holy Place Head Area (Brain) and tells your tabernacle to move.
When you look at the Vertebral the Ribs attach you have 12 on The Right and 12 on the Left that 24. Now like I said Yahshua the Messiah have 12 apostles and there were 12 tribes Encamped around. That 24. That is why when you read the bible and says,
“Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of Yahweh, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your girt about with Truth, and having on the BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSENSS; and you feet shod with the preparation of the Gospel of Peace; above all taking the Shield of Faith, where with you shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the Helmet of Salvation, and the Sword of the Spirit which is the Word of Yahweh”
Now that Area BREASTPLATE is reference to Human Anatomy BECAUSE it cover your of vital organs (heart).
That Tabernacle which pitch in the Wildness had 206 Pillars and Boards and Bar in total sum. The Your Tabernacle (Body) has 206 bones. There was a gate You stand UP Right It call a gate between you Legs.
Now lets take something from when a Woman has a baby since you said you have been to a Class. In Class we teach by BLOOD (Death, Yahweh) Water (Burial, Elohim) and Spirit (Resurrection, Yahshua) and 40.
Now it takes 40 weeks to have a baby or 9 months. Moses was 40 years old when he kills the Egyptian (THERE A SHOW OF BLOOD OR DEATH) and buried (burial) him in the sand then he fled to the wildest or (Resurrected) out in the wildest.
It takes 40 weeks to have a baby When the time come there will be a show of BLOOD, Then that WATER breaks, and That baby Yells for AIR (Spirit).
There are Only 3 Phsyical object that Yahweh told Man to build: 1. Noah Ark 2. Taberablce.and 3. Solomon Temple. They testifiy to The Father(Yahweh) the Word (Elohim) and the Holy Spirit (Yahshua). These 3 Phsycial Object Testify to Yahweh Unity of the Spirit.
Now Look Noah Ark had Upper Deck (Yahweh) Middle Deck (Elohim) and Lower Deck (Yahshua) There was only One window and One door. These is still One Ark. That is why the Messsiah said, “I am the Door”.
Solomon Temple: (1) The Oracle or Most Holy Place(1 king 6:19) (2) The Sancturary, greater House or Holy Place (2 Chronicles 3:5) The Porch or Outer Court (2Chronicles 3:4) There were 3 comparement but One Temple.
Yahweh, who is Spirit this is His Pure Spirit of existence (John 4:24), consists of nine (9) principal Divine attributes; Intelligence,Wisdom, Knowledge, Love, Justice, Beauty, Foundation, Power, and Strength.
Tabernacle had a Most Holy Place a Holy Place and Court that went round about (Outer Court) There where three compartments but one Tabernacle. In the Most Holy Place was Ark of the Covenant and it s 2 cherubims of Glory with their wings overshadowing the Mercy Seat. (Now 3 here) In the Holy Place was Alter of Incense, 7 Branch Lampstand and Table of Shewbread. (Now 3 here) In the Court that Went round about was the Cup of Holy Anointing Oil the Brazen Laver and Altar of Sin Sacrifice. (Now there 3 here) 3+3+3=9. There are 7 plane in the Taberancle It the number 7 Denotes Perfection. The Number 8 means New Beginning. The Human body has 9 System: There are 9 Plants All these thing abide in One Universe.
And Kered: Explain why and what is there relationship with AMEN-RA (9).
I can show you the relationship between Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua Messiah. I tell why the MOON show you only One side of face and the Phases of the Moon.
“There is ONE body, and ONE Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling” (ephesians 4:4)
The ELECTROMAGNETIC SPECTRUM: Televison,Radio, Microwaves,Infrared Rays, Visible, Ulra-violet, X-rays,Garama Rays, and Cosmic Rays. (9)
These rays of energy traveling at the speed of light are physical a mnifestation of the true light of the world, that being Yahshua the Messiah (John 1:4) who came forth from the tribe of Judah; which number 186,400.
To show that He is the true and only light of the world, we must use the physical light of the Sun. This portion of the spectrum is called VISIBLE LIGHT.
By using the Prism and the Rays of the white light it has the affect of Colors: RED, ORANGE,YELLOW,GREEN, BLUE VIOLET and BLACK LIGHT(end of Spectrum) 7
Why is that because Yahweh says, “light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days. Isaiah 30:26
See its hard for anyone to understand Spirit when We have only 5 Sense. We are limit and in are Understanding of Spirit. That why It is nessary to use something Physically made because. Everything made comes From Spirit.
“Quote” from my son: “I can believe in something that I can See or Feel”.
My answer is always this We with are Natural 5 sense cannot Comprehend Air (h2o, Water) in its Pure State: But look Air has to take on a shape on form or beark itself down so that We with are natural 5 sense can comprehend SEE it. Then it does it again for us Air it break itself all the way down to it lowest state solid which we can examine we can feel it . And Air is in us WE breath it We drink it and we move around about it. And Still its H2O in All it state it is still H20 Water. One
That Is that Spirit: Yahweh Elohim Yahshua these 3 are One not 3 diffenerent thing but One Yahweh is Elohim Yahweh is Yahshua. One Spirit and 2 manfestation of One spirit.
Just like H20 only has 2 mafestation after it Gas state. Liquid and Solid.
Now explain AMEN-RA though that Life giving substance. All any living creature on this earth CANNOT live without H2O that Water.
Kered says:
1. But what you can not “PROVE” is the Existance of a “Hebrew” or “Yahweh” BEFORE the year 2000b.c.e……
Edrina Answer:
Gensis 2:7 Yahweh Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living Soul.
Now Frist Yahweh call Man Soul in the bible reference NOT (Egyptain, Greek,American Black, white nor Hebrew) But Soul. Later on he divide the nation. After Cain slain his brother Yahweh put a mark on Him Cain (666, A MAN) and Seth became the Righteous Generations and Cain had UnRighteous. In the purpose of Yahweh. To Show Man that Righteous and UnRighteous are runs side-by-side.
Just like a Light Bulb is Run togetheir a Negative and Postive in order for it to function.
Kered says:
1. Sam & Edrina: January 2, 2009 at 5:09 pm
2.
The reason why the BIBLE does not give any indication of Abrahams PARENTS is because ABRAHAM never EXISTED: Abraham is a “Figment” of someones IMAGINATION……95% of Todays BIBLES are made up stories…..
Why does Kered says, “95% of Todays BIBILES are made up stories? But Then turn around and from “Quote” the same bible to try and PROVE the exitance of AMAN-Ra. Which of the 5% of the Bible are you use KERED just the one that fit what your belief.
Kered Quote: PLEASE READ ABOUT AHKENATEN….YOU WILL FIND THAT HIS “MOTHER” WAS A “HEBREW”……
Examine that which you have ask If Ankenaten mother was a Hebrew why would he change the gods of his father(s) kingdom?
Ankentatem mother Tiye (c. 1398 BC – 1338 BC) was the Chief Queen of Amenhotep III and matriarch of the Amarna family. Her parents Were Amarna: Tjuyu, Tiye’s mother was Egyptian (a descendant of Ahmose-Nefertari), and it appears from his mummy that her father, Yuya, may have been of Asiatic descent. So are you saying that Nefertari was Hebrew? Now that a new one for me… (To hear that Ahkenaten had Hebrew mother.)
But still Kered is only for a short period of the Egpytian History after his death like I said, they EARSE his name and begain again In the worshiping of many gods and goddness. THEY (Egyptian) were a PLOYTHESTIC CULTURE.
Like you said, Amen-Ra was the god of the Ancient Egyptian. Why would Akenaten start worship ATEN Aten (or Aton) was the disk of the sun in ancient Egyptian mythology, and originally an aspect of Ra. He became the deity of the monotheistic — in fact, monistic — religion of Amenhotep IV, who took the name Akhenaten. The worship of Aten seemed to stop shortly after Akhenaten’s death. In his poem “Hymn to Aten,” Akhenaten praises Aten as the creator, and giver of life.
If AMEN is Among the gods who were known to the Egyptians in very early times were Amen and his consort Ament, and their names are found in the Pyramid Texts, e.g., Unas, line 558, where they are mentioned immediately after the pair of gods Nau and Nen, and in connection with the twin Lion-gods Shu and Tefnut, who are described as the two gods who made their own bodies, and with the goddess Temt, the female counterpart of Tem.
RA’S position in the pantheon is unusual. He is the only god, apart from Osiris, who is definitely said to be not on the earth. Ra, it is said, is an aging god, still powerful, but too old to deal with his children any longer, so he has gone exclusively to the sky to watch over the world. Horus rules over the earth and the gods in his stead, demonstrating the divine right of kingship.
Now the simple question you need to ask YOURSELF Why does god need to change his name it he had already been know by the father of Amenhotep III?
Ahkenaten is a small wee bit of Egyptian History and Saying that the Whole believe in ONLY ONE. When Research correctly You will find out this is not So. It is totally false.
I have no problem saying that oldest man structure found to this date date back to Africa before it was divide up. I Know that. But a Structure is limit sooner or later it destroy took apart or just disappears in time.
But the Human body has stood the test of time. Examine your body and see if it fits the pattern of Creator.
The Information come from Gods and Goddess of Egyptian History:
There can be Only One
January 8, 2009 at 3:01 pm |
Hello Edrina!!!
You are aware of the history of Kemet Yet you still believe That “Yahweh” is the CREATOR of ALL when you yourself know that he was “NEVER” mentioned anywhere in the HISTORY of KEMET until the time somewhere around 1800b.c.e…………
So again my question to you is ………HOW CAN HE BE THE CREATOR OF ALL WHEN CREATION WAS ALREADY HERE??????
Its up to you and anybody else to believe what you want……but the TRUTH is starting to come forth from all different angles……People from all Religious backgrounds are bringing these FACTS to the FOREFRONT…..
Its obvious you have read “Some” history of Kemet but you have “YET” to “GRASP” the “CONCEPT” of its Religion and Culture…..Satan has “DISTORTED” the “TRUTH” with these “Modern Day” Religions and like I said before…..When you die you will not see any “YAHWEH” or “YAHSHUA”…
PEACE…….
January 8, 2009 at 3:29 pm |
Edrina I am still in “AWE” over your last post……..You sound like a “Brainwashed” person with no hope…..Your mind has been shut down yet you are a living soul……
I said there are “MANY” sects that PRAY to “YAHWEH”…….
The “House of Yahweh”……which was founded by a man who had a vision/revelation just like Dr. Kinley preaches a different “DOCTRINE” than the IDMR…….Now this is only “ONE” of “Hundreds” of Sectd TODAY that preach about “Yahweh”…..
One of you are right and the others are wrong…………If we gather all of the people from all of the “DIFFERENT” faiths of “YAHWEH”….I will put my head on the “CHOPPING BLOCK” that all of you will end up killing one another………because you have different “DOCTRINES” of “YAHWEH”……
“YAHWEH” is “Blowing Smoke up the Cula of you people”……..Or…….is it because “YAHWEH” is a ‘Made up God”……he can be used in any fashion that people desire……..
Peace in the name of AMEN-RA
January 8, 2009 at 6:37 pm |
Just like I said Kered all you do is spit words towards me about what I have stated about the belief structure of AMEN-Ra. Still you cant give me NOT ONE PHYSICAL “PROOF” your Evidence about Amen-Ra IN the HUMAN BODY.
It a naturally occur event happen when a person cannot prove what that say they began to act like a CHILD and do the OLD Fashion name calling game or start taking about the person not the Subject at Hand. Which is the Soul.
Like I Said it would have better for you to say that you believe in the OLDEST record gods and goddness in a Stone Structure over there in Ancient Egyptian. Then it I would could began from there instead of starting with Amen-Ra. Then to say or Refer to that Amen-Ra was there main god which is Not True. It’s a Johnny come lately in the Egyptian History.
I have give you Proof that in the History of Egypt there was ONLY ONE KING which was Akenaten believe in a subreme being which was Aten and NOT AMEN-RA. You said that his mother was a Herbrew I prove to you That His mother Tiye was not. I have give the Proof alone side the web site that state that Anient Egypt and today Egyptian Worship many gods. To day in Egypt there Are Christendom, Muslim, Islamic, Jews and that list can go on. It just a reflection of what happen in Ancient Egypt. Also, I have correct you on Who Moses parent were and the father of Abram. I have try to show you that Yahweh did not call man first Hebrew Greek Black white etc. But a live Soul.
I have ask question after question which you still have not answer or maybe you just cant answer them. That fine because some times we just don’t know. And just dont want to say it. I know that your mad at what occur in the class that you went to. I say for myself I am truly Sorry for what ever happen.
But it does dismiss Yahweh. People are People we are limit like I said we error we make bad chioces. We do dumb thing in life. But, see when Yahweh give you another chance to come to clear and more profound understanding at least see if it True or Not. Yahweh can be so simple that a child can understand him and he can be so Complex that we still can understand him.
So if you believe that Aman-Ra is the Creator of Heaven and Earth and all the thing that are see and unseen. Would HE (AMAN-Ra) Explain hisself right within you? Couldn’t Everything Not Somethings be Explain by AMAN-RA? So there would be No doubt that He is God of Gods King of Kings and everything else are just idols. So There Would Be NO EXCUSE who made you and they You would give Your Honour and Prasies to that Creator not another. Because like I said before Its One Creator One Creation One Universe You have One Body and One Soul.
Love and peace to all in The Name Of Yahweh OUR Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah who save MY SOUL.
Oh Yeah! The Name Yahweh is use in many place. But the understand that Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua are all one is NOT. I am not wait on a god to return. I do not worship A Man. I know that Yahweh is in me and I am him. I am not apart from Yahweh.
Just like Now AMEN-Ra Amun and other Anicent Egyptian gods and goddess are worship now and each site go to is a different understanding they cannot agree of who gods is.
January 8, 2009 at 7:36 pm |
Kered question:
1. So again my question to you is ………HOW CAN HE BE THE CREATOR OF ALL WHEN CREATION WAS ALREADY HERE??????
Edrina Answer:
I don’t know how well you have study Anicent Egyptian but most of there History is about them. And it simple to If I have Family or if I am a Kingdom and there are other Know worshiper of something else why would include them on my story My history. Remember Greek came on scence some or later also Asiatic History and It took Greek History or Latian to Understand Egyptian History. There are picture of other people or Nation on Tombs and Who are things people? You would draw picture of many different Colours if they weren’t there.
If you every get the chance to Read Japan History from the view point believe me China would lesser to them during there History and there a blood relative. So, like as a History View is always start off with the View Point of the Largest Unify Nation. But as always, Somer or later Some One comes alone and Correct them and say no thats not the way it happen.
American History was Written by White America they White Historian left all the Black who invent anything Call Native American and Africa Wild beast that they had No Culture at all. Then someOne comes alone and prove that they where Wrong in the history account what happen. Remember that has been history account when another Nation has a ConQuest of another Nation they try to wipe them from history.
Japan has done this Euperon has done Africa Nations has done they all have done this.
Like I said before THE Greatest Explaination that I can give you is the Human body to say Yahweh was here before any Strcuture. Because before you can write anything there must be Writer. Before you build anything there must be a Builder. The Human Body comes before any thing that is physically made.
I hope this answer the question.
There can Only be One
January 8, 2009 at 9:22 pm |
Hi Edrina!!!
Its nothing personal against you so I hope you are not taking it that way…..
Everything in the “UNIVERSE” was made by the “First” CREATOR documented in HISTORY……I gave you websites to JUDGE for yourself…
Just like there are 3 different accounts of “Moses” receiving a vision/revelation from “YAHWEH”…..We have 3 Theories of CREATION that was given to us from the ORIGINAL people of KEMET and these 3 Theories “PREDATE” Moses……..
Why does “YAHWEH” continue to give out “Different” visions/revelations to “Different People”??????
He gave Moses a different one, he gave your Founder a different one, He gave Yisharyl Hawkins the founder of the “House of Yahweh” a different one……..and he gave many other people of today who use YAHWEH as their CREATOR Different “Doctrines” of himself…….
Does “Yahweh” know how he want his people to worship him?????…..It sounds like “Yahweh” is very confused….
So that right there should prove to you that what you have in these BIBLES of today are nothing more than….”PLAGARIZATIONS” of the TRUTH…….
January 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm |
Hi Edrina…….
Here is something that may help you understand the Religion of Kemet….
“The ONE Is ALL”……….
The Ancient Egyptians believed in One God who was self-produced, self-existent, immortal, invisible, eternal, omniscient, almighty, etc. This One God was never represented. It is the functions and attributes of his domain that were represented.
These attributes were called the neteru (pronounced net-er-u, singular: neter in the masculine form and netert in the feminine form). The term, gods, is a misrepresentation of the Egyptian term, neteru.
When we ask, “Who is God?” we are really asking, “What is God?”. The mere name or noun does not tell us anything. One can only define “God” through the multitude of “his” attributes / qualities / powers / actions. This is the only logical way, because if we refer to, say, a person as Mr. X, it means nothing to us. However, once we describe his attributes and qualities, we then begin to know him. A person who is an engineer, a father, a husband … etc. does not have poly-personalities, but rather a mono-personality with multiple functions/attributes. For the Ancient and Baladi Egyptians, the concept of God is similar.
To know “God” is to know the numerous qualities of “God”. The more we learn of these qualities (known as neteru), the closer we are getting to our divine origin. Far from being a primitive, polytheistic form, this is the highest expression of monotheistic mysticism.
“The One Joined Together”……..
In Ancient Egyptian traditions, Ra represents the primeval, cosmic, creative force. The Litany describes Ra as the One Joined Together, Who Comes Out of His Own Members. The Ancient Egyptian definition of Ra is the perfect representation of the Unity that comprises the putting together of the many diverse entities, i.e. The One Who is the All.
The Litany of Ra describes the aspects of the creative principle: being recognized as the neteru (gods) whose actions and interactions in turn created the universe. As such, all the Egyptian neteru who took part in the creation process are aspects of Ra.
There are 75 forms or aspects of Ra. As such, Ra is often incorporated into the names of other neteru (gods) such as in Amen-Ra of Ta-Apet (Thebes), Ra-Atum of Onnu/Annu (Heliopolis), and Ra-Harakhte …etc.
The solar energy of the sun is only one of numerous manifestations of Ra. That Ra is not just the sun (only a singular form), was also confirmed in the following verse from the Story of Ra and Auset (Isis), in which Ra states….”I have multitude of names, and multitude of forms”.
January 11, 2009 at 5:13 am |
“CREATOR”……. It truly is crazy to talk of things that can not truly be unexplained about the past like what existed ; all you say is culter did not exist in a time BEFORE B.C. please do not say that because I Am a Cheerikee Indian and Black Foot root’s of this American land mixed with my father’s African root’s of a land I probly will never know mixed with my mother’s mother White Greatgrandfather whom family I don’t know at all, and still exist in the world as a culter of man, and women,……….and I know EACH ONE of my Creator’s of man Indian, Afican, and White worshipped their own God’s to their own Culture, but to say a culter of man did not exist because they are not you IS A INSULT ; When did the fist Indian come to America so they do not have God’s or beleafe of their God’s ? “What Ever” God is one God, but he forgives the One’s who do not Know so I pray God forgive YOU because you do not know!!!!!, but when you die, and your in front of your ceator GOD, and the many cultures of man, and women, and beast are their also ; what will his name be because you think you know, but the truth can hurt us all. Some say God made man to look like him because he say GOD made man in the image of he…….that’s right he as in male because MAN, Gorrillah, Ape’s, Lion’s, Tiger’s, and Bear’s plus the many other animal’s across the world that are made as male in the form as he so make no misteak of the God of Cultures, and his name is GOD…. so many names so many view’s yeah it’s a crazy world, and I see why it’s WAR in the World. Respect, Live, and let live is the LAW OF GOD………because I know if you or me was to be attacked by one of the animal’s from above the only name your gonna cry is GOD……….. this is a reply from IVAN GOD’S CHOSEN ONE, SHUA-SHUA the born Savior, NA’HEEM your SUN the SUN, ALLAH – ARM, LEG, LEG, ARM, HEAD……… A MAN of Culture’s! Keep pointing your view’s God is working right now he making me write this to you because he controll all thing’s I know him as God, and I am he in his DIVINE mercy. I was told death is all we have that’s surtane, and the only thing we have in comon on Earth, but thats not true …. thought, worship, money and God is apart of free will, and choice………..we can go through this all day or Forever! Satan has his follower’s, and that’s the balance of LIFE!!!! What is sin do we all have it? GOD OF THE UNIVERSE….. the creator so when the earth is destroyed or if ; will man talk of God or will we all know, and live with GOD in THE UNIVERSE OF GOD whether it’s Heavon or Hell because what you are tought or lurn may not be the coplete truth because every thing is for a reason this life is just a resting place between Heavon, and Hell in flesh that can also recieve one of the two while on Earth so choose your free will………because what you beleave is just ONE beleafe out of Billion’s.
January 12, 2009 at 9:13 am |
well as my grandmother once said ive looked around everywhere and havent found anything that teaches like the idmr.i personally have not gone to a class in well over 15years but you cannot deny there is some real knowledge there.as i have found in all religions you take the good and leave the rest.as i tell my son get spirituality not religion.over the past 40 years i have watched the idmr and much of my family is in the class or once were.and i do admit pretty much all in he idmr are well intentioned and are truly good people to spend as much of there time as they do to try to pass on what they have learned .as in any orginization you get people that get confused or misinformed over time and discrepencies occur.predictions of an end date should never have happened nor should the reinvention of dantes hell as t seems some had .what happens is people bring with them thier old ideas .they are told a messiah has come but yet still believe maybe he didnt conquer death and hell.to conquer is t own and there is no room for the negative spirit in a heavenly state as it is transformed from darkness to light the tools are no longer needed if our creator truly is the perfect father we all have no problem bowing to him we need not perpetuate this pure love into something negative.the idmr has an aims list and it encorages people to look into all ideas…for we learn from each and every one of us anyone can forget our goal and what we truly need the love of our creator so lets focus a little on lifting up instead of tearing down .when in doubt use your fathers eyes there is only one….i love every last one of you even those that are hard to love …good journey
January 12, 2009 at 3:48 pm |
Kered says,
He gave Moses a different one, he gave your Founder a different one, He gave Yisharyl Hawkins the founder of the “House of Yahweh” a different one……..and he gave many other people of today who use YAHWEH as their CREATOR Different “Doctrines” of himself…….
Does “Yahweh” know how he want his people to worship him?????…..It sounds like “Yahweh” is very confused….
So that right there should prove to you that what you have in these BIBLES of today are nothing more than….”PLAGARIZATIONS” of the TRUTH…….
Sam says,
Yahweh is the all in all. You forget this passage:
Isaiah 45:7 (Holy Name Bible)
“I form light and create darkness: I make peace, and create punishments: I Yahweh do all these things.”
*side note Holy Name Bible is just KJV with the SCARED NAMES put where they should be*
Also Yahweh has allow all that happen. Why because he has a purpose, a pattern and a plan.
Check Isaiah 55:8-9 (Holy Name Bible)
8For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith Yahweh.9For as heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways,and My thoughts than your thoughts.
Now like we been saying not everyone is on the same team. Like ive been pushing and trying to get you too see. There is a negative force working as well, and it is up too you to find out and distinguish fact from fiction. Now everyone that calls upon the Name of Yahweh is not with him,we know that because Satan is his adversary and he does the exact opposite. Yes Yahweh can cause many people to have visions but what seperates those from others is……whether they tell a lie, if he lies then he is just a mere phrophet who makes mistakes therefor be careful. But when one doesnt lie and keeps telling true he is truly from above.
He allows things to happen because its his way, he wants it too happen this way. From the beginning we were already setup, because of our forefathers lack of knowledge and we have been handed down the same ol rubbish fake lies. Check this passage:
Hosea 4:6 (Holy Name Bible)
6My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to Me, seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy Elohim, I will also forget thy children.
*Boom because of our forefathers lack of knowledge back in the day, we were already lost, he allowed it happend because of our ancestors ignorance but he still made sure that there was still a way.
2 Thelossians 2:10-12(Holy Name Bible)
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;because they recieved not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.11And for this cause Yahweh shall send them strong delusion; that they should believe a lie12That they all might be judged who believed not the truth; but had pleasure in unrighteousness
*Boom he sends delusions to people so that they would believe a lie. why do you think the world is in the state it is. One satan and Two Yahweh has people (the folks that rather not look for the truth and believe lies) lost because they care not to grow close to the creator and believe everything that the preacher says. Does the church world talk about the Almight and how he works both sides of the field. No they talk about how loving and caring he is, and Ohh dont forget to give too the church. Please dont let me go on how we equate holiness with driving a BMW, Mercedes, Lexus and having a Mega Church. Oh a blog for its own.
Thats all i got, keep seeking and you shall find the truth, let the spirit guide you and not your own thoughts. Stay Up Yall!!!
January 12, 2009 at 9:39 pm |
Me being put in the middle of all Rightiousness of GOD, and being TRUE to my CREATOR is a wicked exsperiance I mean WORKING with my GOD in TODAY, TOMORROW, and YESTERDAY, but TRUST ME of MOSTLY TODAY . YOU looking for UNDERSTANDING of GOD ; how far do your mind allow you to traval…….. can your mind traval directly to GOD? If so you a PART of GOD’S PLAN, and in his MERCY !!!! ARMAGEDDON is real, and we all most seen it, but GOD has pulled us PAST that, and put it back on stand still. Now you probly want to know what Im talking about well again pay ATTENTION hericain Katrina, and the New Orlean VICTIMS was supsose to be the biginning of ARMAGEDDON!!! When MY PEOPLE, and MY FAMILY was going through that the PRESIDENT called in the National Gaurds for MY PEOPLE, and the National Gaurd was GIVING THE ORDER TO KILL, if Men, Women or Children was cauhgt stealing even though all property, and belongings was already considerd a total lost ; THIS is WHERE GOD, and I come in you see if ONE person was shot, and killed OUR FAIMILY would have had no choice, but to follow GOD’S ORDERS, and “EVERYTHING” that is considerd not the CREATOR’S, and AMERICA WOULD have had WAR on this SOIL because you speak of the UNIVERS as if it’s on earth, and MAN CREATED it ; so man made the STAR’S? IF ONE DIE WE ALL DIE are THE WORD’S OF THE RIGHTIOUS!!!! IN GOD’S NAME! So my brother’s, and sister’s do you want to know how to be obidiant to your GOD well it takes more than just beleaving in him ; you must give your self back to the CREATOR in all you do. I wrote Barack Obama, about new program’s that should be placed into all school’s across the country, but who’s plan is it Mine or Obama’s neather one GOD gave me the PLAN I gave it to Obama. CHANGE THE WORLD!!!! I THINK I CAN so I do as Im told of my HIGHER POWER THE CREATOR. Who can do that? Any man or woman can change the would, but only the RIGHTIOUS will be PRAISED for it by the CREATOR as a TOOL of GOD. WE are left with the past beleafes of GOD to make up in our own mind if it’s true or false what we are told, read or lurn, but truly IT’S THE WORLD that GOD is WORRIED about “not just” man KIND. I AM not perfect because I AM man, and with sin so I must DIE in order to leave sin behind so GOD can forgive me, and have mercy for YOU, but GOD also tell’s me the only way he can defeat the Devil’s control over man is to become GREATER EVIL. I FEAR GOD because earthly pain can end………… GOD say’s, but after death it do not have to end because there is still HELL some must go through. THINK about way’s to better TODAY, and TOMORROW for the world around you, and GOD will WORK with your PLAN because we are all related from our CREATOR, but if you gonna go day by day discusing what is true or a lie from a bible that GOD gave those men the WILL to WRITE together, but what ever religion you have is only a TEACHING. MY WORDS COME DIRECTLY FROM THE CREATOR GOD no teaching’s can determain my faith in the MASTER or of “any” of his TIMES, and still up till now on earth. YOU can say the BIBLE is a lie, but thats your opinion! BASIC, INSTRUCTION’S, BEFORE, LEAVING, EARTH – BIBLE………. that is all it is be obediant to GOD. Do you have your INSTUCTION’S?
January 12, 2009 at 10:57 pm |
To all blogers I want to stay on track with why we are bloging about this parculiar BLOG. The topic or the Writer of the Topic state that:
Father Time (ahsoisee) Says:
1, Idmr is a cult.
Edrina Answer: “Institute of Divine Metaphysical Research” IDMR
Cult define: a particular system of religious worship, with reference to it rites and ceremonies. 2. an instance of an almost religious veneration for a person or thing 3. a group having an exclusive sacred ideology and an a series of rites centering around their sacred symbolsfine:
IDMR is a School We hold 3 PUBLIC Lecture that are 2 hour long each. Now I said it was public which means the doors is always open to anyone whom may want to hear Yahweh our Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah. There are no ceremonies held at the school. We (IDMR) teach in the Truth Name of Father Yahweh his Son or Word Elohim and the Holy Spirit or the Savior of the world which is Yahshua the Messiah.
Father Time (ahsoisee) Says:
2.That the Savior of the World is Jesus.
Edrina Answer:
The Question we need to Ask oursevles what the Savior Name when he walk this earth plane.( Acts 4:12 – And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”)
Yahshua whom he is call Jesus that name DIDN’T and WAS not the Savior Name. The Messiah whom died on the cross over 2000 years ago was not Name Jesus. In the Herberw language the letter J was NOT there. There is no J (Ja)sound in the Hebrew language. The bible was translated from Hebrew to Greek to Latin. In the Greek nor the Latin there was a letter J. The Letter J is the Newest letter in the English Alphabet. The Letter J come from the I that is derisive from the letter Y. In 1611 You would not fine the letter J in the bible but you fine the letter I (Iesus or Iesous). And you would not find the Name Jesus in the bible either.
Also, Hebrew names have meanings if FATHER TIME (ahsoisee) did some little reseach and Look up the Name Yahshua which means Yah: Yahweh and Shua in hebrew mean Savior.
Yes, Jesus does have a meaning: I break it down to its simple forum: “ Jesus” is a corrupted name derived from Greek Iesous, Ies, or iysh in the Hebrew means man.
While sus-soos mean hores “man horse” or “man beast”
The Name Iesous or “hey-soos” means “hey horse”
G-Zeus (Jesue)
Ea-zeus meaning healing Zeus. Then you have Iesus, and Iesous which are pagan origin.
Ge- means earth or soil in Greek. Sus means Swine or pig in Latin. So Your saying “earthpig”
Father Time (ahsoisee) says:
3.The IDMR believes Jesus is one of many incarnations of God in man. They deny Jesus was resurrected from the dead in a body, but in spirit, only. (Another statement) Destroy this Temple, and in three days, I will raise it again”. He was referring to his body prior his crucifixion and death.
Edrina Answer: REREAD John 20:
In John 20 It talks about Mirian seen two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of (Messiah) Yahshua had lain. They ask ask why does she weep and her answer was they take away Rabbi and I know not where they have laid Him. In the 14 verse And whe she had thus, said , she turned herself back, and saw Yahshua (Messiah) and knew NOT that it was Yahshua. In the next verse she think he is a gardener. Keep reading in the 19 verse said, “ were the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for the fear of the Jews, came Yahshua (Messiah) and stood in the midst”. Then Yahshua does this again 26 verse, “ then came Yahshua (Messiah) , the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said Peace be unto You.” Then is the next chapter 21:4 but when the morning was now come, Yahshua (Messiah) stood on the shore; but the disciples KNEW not that it was He. Now after they draw the fish from the sea and bought it to the shore, 12 verse Yahshua (Messiah) saidth unto them, Come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask Him, Who art Thou? Knowing that it was He.
Now the question now should be ask if Mirian new the Messiah before he died on the cross way doesn’t she know who is now if he raise a physical body it would still remain the same body. And How does a Physical Body enter a room when the doors a complete shut. Why doesn’t the disciples know who the Savior is when they walk around with him if he rasie a physical body? Because the Savior didn’t rasie a physical body but spiritual body.
READ I Corinthians 15
44: It is sown a natural (phsyical) body, it raised a Spiritual body. There is a Natural (phsyical) body and this is a spiritual body.
It is written, The first Adam was made a living soul, the last Adam was made a life giving SPIRIT.
Now I say, bretheren, that FLESH and BLOOD CANNOT inherit the KINGDOM of Yahweh (Lord): netiher doth corruption inherit incorruption
Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be CHANGED, In a moment in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be CHANGED. (So what CHANGED is he talkin about?) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Another statement should be examine “Destroy this Temple, and in three days, I will raise it AGAIN. The word Again mean Before So What is the MESSIAH TALKING ABOUT when he saids AGAIN.
Like I said, before in the blog that Yahweh is spirit and to understand or to receive in Understanding about the Creator He Must Give you A Vision and Revelation unto rightness. Now Yahweh has always give Man Vision and Revelation of himself from Adam all the way to now.
To understand what Our Creator is Talking about we must go back to Law Under Moses Now in Exodus there was a Man name JosHua the son of NUN (NONE) Remember what I said that there were NO letter J in the Hebrew Lanugage So Moses minster could not have been name Joshua. We (IDMR) though the grace of Our Heaven Creator Yahweh gave our Found and Dean Dr. Henry C. Kinley a Divine Vision and Revelation in the Year 1931. He, Dr. Kinley prove that Joshua of who is Yahshua was back there with Moses. By the scriptures:
Exdous 24: And He said unto Moses, Come up unto Yahweh (Lord), thou, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu and seventy of the elders of Israel; and worship ye afar off. 2. And Moses alone shall come near Yahweh(LORD).
Now Yahweh (Lord) is tells Moses do something bring his Brother Aaron and his two son plus 70 eldres to the Mt Siani so they will worship Yahweh a far off Which mean not as Close or High Up on the Mt as Moses. Remember Yahweh (Lord) tells Moses to Come alone by yourself nobody should be with me if Yahweh said to bring No one.
Drop down to 13 verse And Moses rose up, and his MINISTER Yahshua (Joshua): and Moses went up into the mount of Elohim (GOD). That Minister Joshua who is Yahshua told him to come or invite him to the Mt. How do we know this: Exodus 33:11 – Thus the Yahweh (LORD) used to speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. When Moses turned again into the camp, his servant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, did not depart from the tent. Deuteronomy 5:4– The Yahweh (LORD) spoke with you face to face at the mountain, out of the midst of the fire, Yahweh is talking about his servant Moses
To verify that was Yahshua (Joshua) I Corinthians 10: Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 and all ate the same spiritual food 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Messiah (Yahshua).
That is why you read in Exodus Yahweh said, this or Yahweh said, that, that is a reoccuring theme in Exodus or the first 5 book of the bible.
We (IDMR) teach that Yahweh is the Word or Son Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah
John 17:3 This is life eternal, that they (Everyone) might know that, Thou (is Yahweh, Lord) only art (ARE) the True Elohim (God) and Yahshua the Messiah, Whom Thou hast sent.
Deutormeny 6:4 Hear, O Isreal: Yahweh (Lord) is Elohim (God) is Yahweh a Unity.
Or Listen my people Yahweh is One Or Yahweh is Elohim and Elohim is Yahweh and Yahshua the Messiah is Yahweh.
Now One more thing that Must be Understood Dr. Kinley did not write a new bible nor Change the words in fix what he stated. His JOB was explain the mystery of Yahweh Purpose Pattern and Plan of Salvation Revelation 10:7 – But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of Yahweh should be finished, as He hath declared to His servants the prophets.
Because Yahweh had it seal up until a point in time which He gave unto his sons, The understanding of the bible or HIM. Colossians 1:26: the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now made manifest to his saints (sons).
Sorry to say Yahweh did not say the world so, that means Everyone will not have a understanding and Knowledge of whom the Creator really is. Like Sam has said, It a Mystery going down hand and hand The Mystery of Unrighteous (corrupted or Death) and Mystery of the Righteous (Life or Immortality).
Like Yahweh (Lord) said, In the begin Elohim (God) created the heaven and the earth. And darkness was upon the face of the Deep And said let there be light (Life, Understanding) and said it was good and call it Day. The he says, the darkness (Death No Understanding) He called it night. And this was in the first Day and Night and Elohim said, “ It was good.”
Isaiah 45:7 – I form light and create darkness, I make peace and create punishments: I Yahweh (LORD), who do all these things.
Again IDMR is a school and it’s has an open door to the Public anyone whom wants to know who the Creator of heaven and earth really is.
There can only be ONE.
January 13, 2009 at 3:06 pm |
Edrina………..You are taking my words out of “Context”…………
I said there were “No Civilized” people when the “First Dynasty” of Kemet/Egypt came into existence around the year 5000b.c.e………Some Scholars would say there were no one on the face of the earth besides the people of Kemet but I would not take it that far……..I gave you a definition of the word “Civilized” so that you would not get confused….but seems as if you are confused.
In 1931a.d……….YAHWEH came to Henry C. Kinley with a vision/revelation of the truth…..Thats what the members say.
it is a “FACT” that “Yahweh” already revealed his “Vision/Revelation” to “Moses”, “John”, “Saul” and countless others “BEFORE” Henry Kinley was BORN…..
“History is best Qualified to Reward All Reseach”……..
There is a book called…”The Sixteen Saviors of the World”……….This book reveals fact of the PLAGARIZATION that is taking place with all the “Different” cultures that will tell a “Diferent” story of their “Religion” and their “God”…….
“BUT”…..this book will also tell you, “like countless others will”, that the “FIRST” people to have a story of a “SAVIOR” and “CREATOR” was those people of Kemet/Egypt…….and there is no denying it
There is “NO” eveidence what-so-ever that a (“Civilized”) “Hebrew”, a “Greek”, “Roman” or a “Muslim” was on this earth “PRIOR” to the year 1800b.c.e……..
Peace in the name of the one and only CREATOR of ALL……Amen-Ra
January 13, 2009 at 3:18 pm |
Now Lets get to the “Nitty-Gritty……………..
According to the HNB/KJV……..Moses lead the Hebrew slaves out of Egypt…….Correct?
According to the HNB/KJV……..The slaves “BUILT” the “Pyramids” of Egypt…..and they must have built the ones in “Sudan”…….
My question still remains un-asnwered?…….
Someone please tell the year this happened……..
Give us the name of the Pharoah that held the slaves…….
Once you do that……
I will give to you…….”Unaduterated Physical-Biological-Archealogical Evidence” that you are WRONG………….
The truth that was here in the beginning………will come back in the end of times………AND THAT TIME IS NOW.
January 13, 2009 at 5:42 pm |
We who believe in the Religion of Kemet have no ILL feelings of anyone…..We respect others and their religious belief……
Our Mission is to bring forth the “Truth” that has been “Hidden” in “PLAIN SIGHT”…to those who believe in a CREATOR……If you believe there is a “GOD” above all then we have something in common…….
Our difference is we use “Facts” based on “Evidence”……as opposed to those who just use “Faith” and “Belief” based upon what someone has told them.
Here is another website from Gerald Massey…….A noted Historian AND a Former “Christian Priest”……..
http://www.kemetway.com/massey1.html
I gave you a link to “Sigmund Freud”…..and you should know who he is……He practised “Judaism”…..And he wrote a book about the “Facts” of the “Hebrew” and how the “Hebrew Plagarized” the Truth of “Kemet”…
We have countless people from all religious backgrounds writing about the “Truth” of Kemet/Egypt…….Where it ALL came from….
January 13, 2009 at 10:27 pm |
I honestly Hope and my desire is that You Kered really do some good Research on the Human Body it function and it Purpose. Then you would have the need to ask If Aman-Ra is the Creator of Heaven and Earth Because there is NO Evidence that A MAN of the Ray of the Sun Forum Your Body.
Kered says:
1.I said there were “No Civilized” people when the “First Dynasty” of Kemet/Egypt came into existence around the year 5000b.c.e………Some Scholars would say there were no one on the face of the earth besides the people of Kemet but I would not take it that far……..I gave you a definition of the word “Civilized” so that you would not get confused….but seems as if you are confused.
Edrina answer: Remember what I said, “ Sooner or later Some One comes alone and Correct them and say no thats not the way it happen.”
Look You repeat that old record about Kemet I reallly don’t think that you have done simple reseach. Now Kemet are not the oldest or CIVILIZED people who were in Egyptain. Like I said do your research. It Simple Research.
Wrong AGAIN: Now Kemet Religion Start around 4500 Bce But I don’t Know if you Knew That ARCHAEOLOGY has RECORDED History of DRAVIDAISM from 6000 to 3000 BCE. Now that would PRE-DATES the raise of Sumerian, EGYPTIAN and Babylonian cultures. NOTE: Hinduism come from DRAVIDAISM.
So does DRAVIDAISM make it the Original Religion. I say No Again. But Kered should says Yes. Why because Kered says, “ that the Original Religion should be gods Religion or the Olderst or CIVILIZED.” And I Hope you Knew that Kemetism and Dravidasim are similar to. They Have gods and goddess that are structure in apart and each one service a different purpose in the purpose of Hindusim.
Here another question because KERED is so into saying that there is no- Evidence of Hebrew before a certain time. So were did they come from if not from? I guess they (Isrealities Just POP UP from OUT of No were?)
Kered says:
1.In 1931a.d……….YAHWEH came to Henry C. Kinley with a vision/revelation of the truth…..Thats what the members say.
Edrina answer: Remember what I said, “ Sooner or later Some One comes alone and Correct them and say no thats not the way it happen.”
Now I try explain this in the most simple way that you may understand You, Me and Everyone not Just Henry C. Kinley, Moses, Paul Etc… MOST be apart of the VISION and the REVELATION. Which means That Dr.Kinley Did not see anything Different or Say anything different then Moses, John or anyother of the person in the bible. Now When Yahweh give you the Understanding of Him you wouldn’t be able to say anything different Unless Yahweh choose you to play a different role in the Mystery.
I have told you that KEMET was not the first on the Scene and I wait to say that because I want to see have you done any other resreach on the Egyptian in the whole. You need to look a word which be use now Egyptian History Monolatrism or monolatry.
I have always state that Yahweh is One monotheism (belief in a singular god). And Yahweh says that there NO OTHER GOD to believe in or that exist.
Kemetism is the belief of Monolatry IS the WORSHIP of one god even though other gods are believed to exist.
Kemetism believe that there are other gods around but they (Kemetism) just don’t worship them that a more simple way of put it.
You yourself has made this statement about AMEN-RA “This One God was Never represented.”KERED SAYS:
2.The Ancient Egyptians believed in One God who was self-produced, self-existent, immortal, invisible, eternal, omniscient, almighty, etc. This One God was never represented. It is the functions and attributes of his domain that were represented.
EDRINA ASNWER:
That One God You said Never represented. So that Could not been God.
Let us Old Fashion Common Sense If your Immortal Why does RA age? He is said to leave and remain up in the SKY and leave Osiris to the earth.
I don’t Know if Kered is a Kemetic Orthodoxy but if you are you still worship or carry out the Same out stuff that Christendom Does. Kemetic Orthodoxy and REV(clergy, temples and shrines) and Mother of all Christendom have Prest, Kemetic have the Ritual of the Dead and the Service of the MOONS and Holydays. So there still a worship of Working out of YOUR OWN SALAVTION.
I Don’t Work about my own Salavtion. I can Say again with proof That Ancient Believe in Many gods. But, One thing is True about The Ancient JEW That They Have always believe in The Almight Provider (ELOHIM) and that Story has never Changed. And After Moses Received the Name of YAHWEH it has always still remain in the JEWish Faith.
You can not say that about Egyptian History They got a god for everything from the Sun all the way down to a Cats and Dogs it over 2000 is it. And each god and goddess is do something and some are do nothing at all.
Let examine a couple to see what there Purpose and function were RA.
RA’S position in the pantheon is unusual. He is the only god, apart from Osiris, who is definitely said to be not on the earth. Ra, it is said, is an aging god, still powerful, but too old to deal with his children any longer, so he has gone exclusively to the sky to watch over the world. Horus rules over the earth and the gods in his stead, demonstrating the divine right of kingship.
So if Ra’s ages and rules the sky and let another rule the world. Why does God age if he is a God? Plus Kered said there IMMORTAL. I says There is no physical time in IMMORTALITY. So, who does a god age?
Osiris rules over Commerce, success initition, death and REINCARNATION, Religion, power, codes of law its about another 20 things Osiris Rules over. REINCARNATION is Physical.
Horus rules over Prophecy, war, revenge, justice, success, problem solving, the Sun, music, the arts, beauty, weapons, family, home. Horus RULES the SUN. RA the Sun god Or the Number One and Only god? So how can the Only god by Rule by another god which in down on the earth or is Horus up in the sky to.
So I guess at the end of the Day 2000 gods and goddess meet up with Amen-Ra Which are Two gods put together and Say what happen what occur and what going on in Mankind (KERED) today. And make a discussion on it.
There is NO Proof From Any REAL ARCHAEOLOGY that Ancient Egyptian Had only One God.
1.Kered Says: January 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm in which Ra states….”I have multitude of names, and multitude of forms”. January 13, 2009 at 3:06 pm Edrina………..You are taking my words out of “Context”…………
Edrina Answer:
You make these statement I don’t take the out of “Context”. Means what you Say and Say what you Mean. Because I am talking about the Soul Our Creator give Us a Soul He has ONE NAME NOT MANY NAME(S). In ALL Faith Religion SECT Cults True and Believe is One Universal thing that They all Have In COMMON. That the DEVIL, HADES, SATAN COMES IN MANY NAME(S).
Now Yahweh is ONE YAHWEH there is NO NO OTHER gods idol help mates be side Him. There are NONE. Again YAHWEH is ELOHIM ELOHIM is YAHWEH and YAHSHUA IS YAHWEH.
So you say you have read the bible that is why the Jews seek to Kill Yahshua because He made himself One with Yahweh not for the Miracle or the works that he done but because he made himself ONE with Yahweh.
I have try to explain the UNITY OF THE SPIRIT to you. How that You have a head, chest and Abdomial Area but there is Only One Body (KERED) not Many. And You Cannot Divided the HEAD, CHEST OR ABDOMIAL ARE With out Death occur. Now if You did divided Yourself up or give prasie to the unknow part of you. Doctor would have a Name for that LUNACY.
But that is what Kered is say when It come to Egyptain BELIEF.
You don’t KERED Put ENITITY together, When ENITITY has it OWN being and Existence. from Kered: January 8, 2009 at 9:59 pm “Unity that comprises the putting together of the many diverse entities, i.e. The One Who is the All. And you say DIVERSE (many Different, MULTI).
Yahweh is Spirit we can not understand Spirit in it Pure State. Just like we can not understand H2O in it Pure State. Now Yahweh Knowing this broke his down as Elohim. Just like that H2O breaks itself down into Liquid. But See Yahweh Love us even more did it again Broke hisself down that you could have touch him Seen him examine him with your OWN Hands as Yahshua a Solid Forum. So does that H2O it breaks it self down just for us so that we can examine hold it see it. Its Solid. On Earth there are Big Oceans out there of water take a glass of that water in that glass all the same substance is still in that glass as it was in the Big Ocean. So that goes for Yahweh to the same substance in Yahweh Our Elohim through Yahshua the Messiah Our Savior.
Now look There is not 2000 different state of H2O. Water H2O are only 3 states but One WATER H2O.
I Only go to say this One more time because there is, GODS AND GODESS In Egyptian History and Kered CANNOT CHANGE That.
Nor CAN KERED Explain AMEN-RA IN the HUMAN body because A MEN is not a god he just a man. A man can only be A man. That why its so important to find out whats in a Name.
See that is why Kered Only can Hold on to a Phsyical thing that is made with hands. See the Human Body is not Fashion by A MAN. NO Man went into my mother womb and said, I place in arm there, and I place in eye Here. See only the Creator of Heaven and Earth can do that One. And When Yahweh Created HIS Creation HE Yahweh Put his STAMP HIS NAME On it and Will Not Let another be Praise or give Thanks to.
So Kered, You Keep Your Faith of Many gods and goddess working togethier in a collective state of existence than coming togethier to collective thought. Prasie to this part of Amen-Ra gods hort. Then waiting til that day that Your Heart can be weighted is against a feather. Believe Natural So the Heart Weight at Least than a pound The average weight of a female human heart is 9 ounces and a male’s heart is 10.5.
I guess there AINT gonna be NO body up there With AMEN-RA Because a Feather in weight is under light weight. It cannot even be measure with a normal scale. So a Human Heart will always be Heavier then a feather.
GOD IS ONE NOT MANY
Yahweh Our Elohim is a Unity (ONE) Det 6:4
Now look there is a BIG BIG BIG different between Yahshua Seb, and Jesus. Yahweh Elohim Yahshua is not a holy trinity. That is were you going wrong at. IDMR does not have a Trinity structure like Christian or like AMEN-RA. That Trinity structure has 3 gods working together in a collative just like Amen-Ra.
Yahweh is One: Hear OH Israel Yahweh is One (Unity).
When you can Explain Amen-Ra in the human Body from start to finish then He is the real god because It doesn’t matter if evidence was destroy even made up the Evidence of the Human body will always be there it the evidence of the Only and Real Heavenly Creator Yahweh.
When I look at my self and that One statement was made in the likeness and image if bible was so called PLAGARIZATION of Amen-Ra so I should be able to define my self by Amen-Ra.
When I strenth my hand out or look at a tree I see that great big Letter (Y) I don’t see the Letter A for Amen or the Letter R for RA but what (Y)ou will see Naturally that Letter Y. Why is YOU with a Y and I can just say u. just another thought I might just throw in there.
We come into this world asking Mom Why (Y) this Daddy Why that (Y) and when a person dieds Guess what That EXAMINER DRAW that GREAT LETTER (Y) and what is call the Y INCISION.
January 14, 2009 at 3:10 pm |
EDRINA…………..
I asked (2) simple questions? And you can not answer one of them……..You go into these “Absurd” explanations of Yahweh and his “Purpose”…….
Fact #1……The “Human Body” was on this “Earth” before “Yahweh” was made up by the Hebrews…..so how can Yahweh claim it????
Fact #2……The first “Hebrew” was “Abraham” and he came on the scene in 1800b.c.e….
Fact #3……The Pyramids was on this “Earth” before “Abraham” was born……so how could a man/people build something before he/they are born????
You said the “Dravidians” was on this earth 6000b.c.e…..Are you serious???……Give me a link to that?
Edrina do you know who the Original Dravidians are?????
They are “Ethiopian/Sudanese Decent……Can I prove it Yes…….here is ONE link of many………. http://www.essaysbyekowa.com/dravidians_sudanese.htm
Edrina……Everything I say to you I can give you a link to it and prove it…..You have yet to prove ANYTHING to me other than that which is written in the BIBLE and the teaching that your LEADER, Dr. Kinley told you…….and you should know by now that the BIBLE is 95% FALSE and Henry Kinley was JUST another MAN…
WAKE UP……………..
January 14, 2009 at 3:48 pm |
Edrina…………..
When I said you are taking my words out of “Context” I was referring to what I describe as “Civilization”……….Not what The Creator said about having many names and forms………..
But he does have many names and forms…….Your mind has to be “Unlocked” to understand NATURE…….
The word “God” was not used in Kemet…….The word “Neteru” (ntr) was used to describe the CREATOR…………
The ward “Nature” came from the word “Neteru”(ntr)…….which the Greeks transliterated into the word “GOD”……..
Can you see it NOW??????
Is it not true that “God” created “Nature”????????……..Do you see the connection???
I said a few post back……..THE TRUTH IS HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT
If he CREATED everything in the UNIVERSE……He has a “Right” to give it a name that “Connects” with his “Essence”…….
All the “Dieties” that the people of Kemet used was only “PERSONIFICATIONS” of him……………….
As Carter G. Woodson said:
“When you control a man’s THINKING you dont have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go there. He will find his proper place and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His Mis-Education makes it necessary.”
January 15, 2009 at 1:39 am |
Lets start at the begin of Moses Vision on top Mt Siani, Exdous 24 Then went up Moses Aarron and his 2 son and 70 of the elders and Saw in a Vision the Elohim of Isreal. Now Moses was on the Top and the others were below Now they saw Elohim but did not receive the Understanding of Elohim because they went down and built the Gold CALF.
But Moses saw more He saw ELOHIM Transforum or Explain himself by that Tabernacle (PATTERN) Thats why you read in Gensis Man is made in the likeness and Image of Elohim. That Tabernacle which was pitch in the wilderness of Siani is 3 fold so is the Creator 3 fold. But still that Tabernacle is One Tabernacle and Yahweh is One Yahweh.
Tabernacle had a Most Holy Place (YAHWEH) a Holy Place (ELOHIM) and Court that went round about or Outer Court (YAHSHUA) There where three compartments but one Tabernacle. In the Most Holy Place was Ark of the Covenant and it s 2 cherubims of Glory with their wings overshadowing the Mercy Seat. (Now 3 here) In the Holy Place was Alter of Incense, 7 Branch Lampstand and Table of Shewbread. (Now 3 here) In the Court that Went round about was the Cup of Holy Anointing Oil the Brazen Laver and Altar of Sin Sacrifice. (Now there 3 here) 3+3+3=9.
There are 7 plane in the Taberancle It the number 7 Denotes Perfection. The Number 8 means New Beginning. The Human body has 9 System: There are 9 Plants All these thing abide in One Universe.
There are Only 3 STRUCTURE that YAHWEH told Man to build: Noah Ark, The Tabernacle, and Soloman Temple.
Kered says:
1.Fact #1……The “Human Body” was on this “Earth” before “Yahweh” was made up by the Hebrews…..so how can Yahweh claim it????
Edrina Answer:
That Is the QUESTION How Can something that Is made UP be explain by something that was already here? That is what I trying my hardest to make you SEE The Human Body was before Dr. Kinley the Egypt Your AMEN-RA. Before any structure could have been Made a Human must make it. Before Man could understand the body Yahweh had around describe in detail. With a Vision and Revelation You can understand it to.
Like I will say again if AMEN-RA made me Y cant His handywork be found in the Human body? Because he did not make a man.
When a human makes something physical a pair pants a House Naturally so that person will put there NAME on it. Y because that person doesn’t want ANYONE, NOBODY getting the praise or the acknowledgement for it. Naturally so You Say I made that.
So does the Creator We are in the likeness and Image of the Creator. Yahweh made a HOUSE for the Soul to dwell in. That Tabernacle that You Carry around That has a TEMPLE.
Fact Or True Wittness IS THAT HUMAN BODY so let EXAMINE or SEE Whats in it.
The Human Tabernacle has 206 bones with arm and legs around it. The Tabernacle which was in wilderness of Sinai had 12 tribes around it. The Tabernacle which Yahweh pitch and not Man Yahshua who was 33 had 12 Aposlte around Him.
Remember I talk about That Tabernacle which Yahweh pitch and Not man. That Tabernacle in Sinai 149 pillars boards and bars and had 12 tribes around It and Yahshua was 33 with 12 Aposlte around him. 149 +33+12+12= 206
Let stay on the body Spinal Nerves has 31 pairs (31x 2) 62 and 1 Terminal Thread of the Cord called the Filum Terminal. Which would give you 63.
This is how I Know that Adam was first Soul from Yahweh There are 63 Generation from Adam to Yahshua.
There was a Covering that on the Tabernacle Rams’ skin dyed red, badgers’ skins above that and there was goats hair for the tent was inside(3). You have skin and it has 3 layers outer layer is called the epidermis second layer (located under the epidermis) is called the dermis Under these two skin layers is a fatty layer of subcutaneous tissue.
The Tabernacle had Tenons and sockets. Don’t the Human body have Tenons and sockets.
Remember what I said about the Tabernacle in the Wilderness of Siani and whats it had in.
It had 9 Vessel in it. Let examine some of them to see if any go by the Human body;
In the Most Holy Place was the two Archangels represented Michael, a warrior he took action and Gabriel the deliver messages and the Mercy Seat.
Now You have a Most Holy Place which Your Head Cavity. In the Brain there is a Left Side and Right Side. Left does what? Action (Motor function). Right does What?
Messages (Sensory Function)
The brain which is composed of gray and white matter:
Now remember You said that you have been to Class So in the Moderation,
WE HAVE YAHWEH IN HIS PURE SPIRIT STATE SYMBOLIZED ON THIS CHART AS A CLOUD. YAHWEH IS NOT A CLOUD, HE MERELY CHOSE A CLOUD TO SYMBOLIZE HIMSELF BECAUSE A CLOUD HAS NO PARTICULAR OR DESCRIPTIVE SHAPE AND FORM. WE HAVE DRAWN THIS CLOUD ALL AROUND THE EDGES OF THIS CHART TO SHOW YOU THAT EVERYTHING ON THIS CHART IS WTTHIN THE CLOUD. IN LIKE MANNER, EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE ABIDES WITHIN THE PURE SPIRT STATE OF YAHWEH.
Remember in Exodus A Cloud was on top Mt. Sinai. That Cloud Which Yahweh overshadowed the Mercy Seat. A cloud can be decribes as a Grayish white Color.
In the Holy Place (Chest Cavity) was Alter of Incense, 7 Branch Lampstand and Table of Shewbread.
Lets examine the Alter of Incense The high Priest would make a 4 principle ingredients called stacte, onycha, galbanum and frankincense which were sweet odoriferous spices. The Incense gave a sweet smell unto Yahweh. It perfumed the entrie Tabernacle. And it burn. No one but the High Priest know the ingredients and Yahweh forbade anyone else to know the composition of it.
What Perfumed or gives of sweet smell into the Human Body. The Lung gives us that How is that? The Air that we breath in and Oxygen for Our bodies. It has 4 principle ingredients Called Nitrogen, Hydrogen, Cardon Dioxide and Oxygen. That a burning action in the lungs to with the oxidation is unite with the oxygen. And guess what again NO MAN know the right composition to but that together Neither.
In that Mosaic Taberncale, where Vails it divides the Most Holy Place and the Holy Place these Vails were blue, purple (violet) and scarlet (red) in color.
So let see Whats in The Human Taberncale That blue purple and scarlet in color. In Your body You have blood Vessels that another word to look it to Vessel in the Human body was there Vessels in the Taberncale in the Wilderness of Siani.
Any Way the Vessel passing to head are gathered together in the neck in one great profusion, the veins in colored blue, the arteries are red and the thyroid gland and iodine filled the thyroid is violet or purple in color.
No Ye not that Your Body is a Tabernacle….
Let think of some other item or things that are in a body or Tabernacle, The 7 branched Golden Candle Lampstand which was in the Holy Place. This Lamp provide LIGHT (life) the light has a flicking action that take place when a candle is lit. Your Heart has a flicking action to it. Also, there are 7 branches in the heart.
Kered says, “ book reveals fact of the PLAGIARIZATION.” Or “ 95% of the bible is Made up”.
Plagiarization or Plagiarize define as to copying or imitating the language, ideas, and thoughts of another author and passing off the same as one’s original work.
Now Remember Moses Wrote the 1st five books of the Bible. The Book of Exodus Was 1st Gensis was tooken out of Exodus by Bible Scolars. (That another Blog)
Now Moses grow up in the House of Pharoah and Knew he was a Hebrew Knew who his brotheren was (Reread my blog about How he knew.) There is NO TABERANCLE describle by a Pharoah that I knew saying Aman-Ra dwell there. And that Tabernacle is describle in the bible there are about 40 charts denote to this Tabernacle.
Still keep in mind what I said, about that Pattern which is the explaination of Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah.
Now Everything Seen and unSeen goes by that Pattern. From the Simple item in the Universal to Profound item. Because Yahweh declares it so. So if Yahweh says it let examine to see if it true.
Yahweh says he is 3 fold but 1 Yahweh. Tabernacle is 3 fold but 1 Tabernacle.
ATOM (ADAM) is 3 fold but 1 Atom. Atom has Proton, Neutron and Electron
Proton and Neutron are join together and the Electron goes around about the Proton and Neutron.
Guess what That TABERANCLE had The Most Holy Place and Holy Place they were join together and a tent cover it and the Outer Court was open and went Round about.Or cricle the Most Holy Place and Holy Place.
Why is ATOM and ADAM pronouce the Same I guess that must be happen stands to?
Remember what I say about that Why it is important to SEE whats in a NAME: Let just examine the Word NAME: In the Word NAME there are only two vomels Why is That? And that Letter A comes before the Letter E. Why because (YHWH) YAhwEh Declares it so. Remember in Hebrew there are NO Vowel letter they us Marks to point out the vowel sound.
Also, it Show that Man (Adam) was before Womb Man (EvE) . In the Male body there are Hormone its Androgen there that simple letter A for male again. And in a Female the Hormone is Estrogen there that simple letter E for female again.
Now let go back to Atom: Atomic Bomb was cause by spliting the Atom (Adam). Or better Knew unto the Son of Yahweh spliting the Unity of the Spirit. Now Yahweh says you can split him Up or Divide him Because its death unto man. Just like you can divide your Head from the Chest or Abdominal death will occur.
Lets see what occur when the Atom is split (divide) or drop There is a Red Consuming Firery and there is a Cloud all around. And what happen Death Occur.
Now Yahweh saids, Lamentations 2:3 He has cut down infierce anger all the might of Israel; he has withdrawn from them his right hand in the face of the enemy; he has burned like a flaming fire in Jacob, consuming all around.
Heb 12:29 for our Yahweh is a consuming fire.
I Yahweh is all these thing I forum the light and Create darkness.
Now What Yahweh has Cause NO MAN to have an excuse. That everyone should know him from the least to greatest.
But see it just doesn’t end there with the Human Body. Yahweh can be explain though the Earth the Plants Even the through the Process of learning. When Yahweh said, “Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool; what is the house which you would build for me, and what is the place of my rest?
Which mean you cannot confine Yahweh.
You take these example and examine the for yourself. Like said if Amen-Ra is the true Create of Us all explain him by that Human body which was before any thing Humanly thing made.
That why I keep try to explain to you that Yahweh made a living soul 1st ( Adam) than 2nd A Man (Cain) or (AMAN).
If Yahweh came so late it would be totally be impossible for that Tabenacle to have anything I mean anything concern the human body and it function and it structure. Your body is in the Likeness and Image of the Creator. Yahweh, Says what he means and Means what he says.
I could type for days and show the simple thing of this world is Yahweh from the time go to bed to time you get up in the morning.
Love peace in the NAME of True and Only Yahweh our Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah
January 15, 2009 at 3:33 pm |
Edrina………
Mental Slavery got you much more than I thought.
“History is best qualified to reward ALL research”…….
If the IDMR is a “School of Metaphysical Research” then why aren’t you or any of the members doing “ANY” research?????
To research something you must know the “History” of it…….The HNB or KJV or any other Bible will “NOT” give you anything close to “Accuracy” of “History”…..You must go “Beyond” all the BIBLES and do some “Soul Searching”…….
We have too much—-Archealogical, Anthropological, Biological and Physical Evidence to make the BIBLE look like a Fairy Tale story……and that is just what these BIBLES are…….Fairy Tales
If the BIBLE is the way for you to save your spirit and get back to the CREATOR……Then as people of a “Metaphysical Research School” you “MUST” ask yourself these questions which are:
1) Why the BIBLE does not contain any reference to Dates and Correct names of People and Places?????
2) Why the BIBLE have so many contradictions in it?????
Example: The BIBLE will not give the name of the PHAROAH that held the Hebrew slaves—-and it gives no DATE when this took place—-it only gives a guess of the lenght of time they were supposedly held in Bondage….
Anybody with any common sense should ask if they know the LENGHT in time of the Bondage then they should know the DATE this took place….
ITS ALL A “PHALLACY”…….TO KEEP PEOPLE LIKE THOSE IN THE IDMR in mental slavery……….
Peace in the name of the ONE AND THE ALL and ONLY…….Amen-Ra
January 15, 2009 at 3:55 pm |
Edrina…..THE TRUTH IS LOOKING YOU DIRECTLY IN THE FACE AND I WILL USE ONE OF YOUR QUOTES IN CONTEXT TO PROVE THE EXISTANCE OF “RA” who is the CREATOR:
Now let go back to Atom: Atomic Bomb was cause by spliting the Atom (Adam). Or better Knew unto the Son of Yahweh spliting the Unity of the Spirit. Now Yahweh says you can split him Up or Divide him Because its death unto man. Just like you can divide your Head from the Chest or Abdominal death will occur.
These are your words EDRINA……..
Please look at this link Edrina.
http://www.egypt-tehuti.org/books/sacred-geometry-inside-look.pdf
Now from what you just said about ATOM(ADAM)…..this article will prove to you what I have been telling you ALL along…….
All what you think is correct and the truth is nothing more than a “Plagarization” of the TRUTH…….
That Symbol of the “Atom” represents “RA” in his “Hidden-Incorpereal-Spirit Form”…….
And it has been “Plagarized” to mean something totally different……It has “NOTHING” to do with a Man…..Especially “Adam”…..
Edrina…..I continue to give you “Evidence” of what I am saying…….the only thing you can refer to is the BIBLE…….
January 15, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
Now just keep on the Subject You have a Soul i have a Soul If Amen-Ra is the Make of Us All. Give me the physical Evidence of the Human body?
I have show You that Yahweh can be proven because he left us a Pattern that is True.
I reference to the Human body and examine the Human body which was before anything that was made If Aman-Ra is the Creator of All show Amen-Ra explain himself by the body.
I us the bible to show that the Body confirm the trure about Bible. The Writer which is the Human person comes before the the thing which is written.
See Every last Structure comes after the Human body. Because a structure is made by a Human that is what You are unable to understand.
If Amen-Ra is the only true god the Your body would say so. Because it so simple We as Human wouldn’t allow any other person say I made that when they didn’t.
Again which you still can not Answer keep beat around the question keep going in circle about Why Amen-Ra can not be proven by that body. Because, It so simple so is easy because A Man did not make the body A RA or Ray from the Sun did Not make the Body. I dont walk A Man Ra. My heart does beat to a 3 count.
That Amen-Ra was not the first god of Egyptian he a god that came about lately. There again was Only One King in Egyptian History that belief in One god and One god Only Not Many Gods. And that Name Was ATEN. Why would god have to keep Change his Name if he Not try to Hind from the Truth.
We as Human being Know When a Person Keep changes His Name From John to Greg to Will and so and so. We Know that He a thief and a Robber People like that are Jails and prison do that one.
Peace Love In the Name Of My Savior Yahshua the Messiah
January 15, 2009 at 6:09 pm |
Edrina….You contradict yourself CONSTANTLY……..
In one blog you SAID its not about the PHYSICAL….yet you stress the “Physical Body” as proof of yahweh….
The last post I made I gave you reference to the “ORIGIN” of the “ATOM”…..which you tried to link it with “ADAM” and “YAHWEH”..
The “ATOM” in its Purest Form can not be seen…..
BEFORE “YAHWEH” CAME ON THE SCENE…..
This was already “ESTABLISHED”….The “ATOM” or “ATEM” or “ATUM” or “AMEN” or “AMON” or “AMUN”…..whichever NAME you prefer is the “Physical Form”…..cause they are “ALL RELATIVE”……..
(“RA”) in his PUREST SPIRITUAL form represents the “ATOM” or the “COMPLETE CIRCLE” in its PUREST form….that which you CAN NOT see…….
Yahweh was not even BORN YET when this was established……PLEASE GET YPUR MIND RIGHT
January 15, 2009 at 6:29 pm |
Spell Check….PLEASE GET (YOUR) MIND RIGHT….
Edrina…..here is another link from a different source explaining the “ATOM” (ATUM) in its PUREST state…..Which was ESTABLISHED in “KEMET” Thousands of years before “YAHWEH” was even a THOUGHT.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/afr/stle/stle12.htm
And since you know so much about the HUMAN BODY do you know that ALL THE Lymphatic Fluids and BLOOD travel in a “CIRCLE” like the “ATOM”…..this gives PROOF of (“RA”) as the CREATOR since he is represented as the COMPLETE CIRCLE or the “ATOM”………
ALSO did you know that TIME TRAVELS IN A CIRCLE LIKE THE “ATOM”…
Time DOES NOT travel in a “Y”……….
The BLOOD or Lymphatic Fluid DOES NOT TRAVEL IN A “Y”………
PEACE
January 15, 2009 at 10:05 pm |
One more thing Ms. Edrina…………..That BLOOD that flow thru your Arteries/Veins have what shape of CELLS??????
Those RED BLOOD CELLS that carry “OXYGEN” or “AIR” is in the shape of a “CIRCLE” or (“RA”)……..
Remeber Edrina…….The name “Atom-Atum-Atem-Amun-Amon-Amen” represents the “Physical Form”……….(“RA”) represents the “Circle” in its “PUREST FORM”………
If the HUMAN Body was made from Yahweh…..my question to you is why he did not make those “LIFE” giving RED BLOOD CELLS in the shape of a “Y”…??????????
January 15, 2009 at 10:22 pm |
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/hsw/6299-organ-systems-the-circulatory-system-video.htm
Here a Web site that You really need to See Simple that You can Hear and See with Your own 2 Eyes How That You Breath in the Count of 2 and If You Listen You will Heard Yah Wah.
Plus you will see those Veins and Arteries in that Y branches and See How the blood goes Round about that body. You can See those Y in his hands. And if you check it check how many bones you have. Check out what I wrote in blog January 15, 2009 at 1:39 am
And compare it to what I Wrote. Because to see if it match up.
You need to reread My blog because almost in all my blog I am talking about the body. And I miss spell a word or two I Human sorry. Because You have miss spell words and I still understood what Your are says. I will make sure that I recheck my check spell Just for You.
That Is why I paste every thing you say and I don’t type it. Please show me were I said it not about the Physical. The whole Universal which include You and I is Physical manifestation of Spirit. I don’t worship Yahweh physically, And this is life eternal that they might Know that, Thou only art the true Elohim, and Yahshua the Messiah, Whom Thou has sent John 17:3. So eternal is to have a Knowledge.
Yahweh is Spirit He is the Source the Substance the limits and the bounds of EVERYTHING.
Again Humans CANNOT understand Yahweh in his PURE SPIRIT state because we are limited. We only have 5 senses. Yahweh (Spirit) knows that, He TOOK on a shape and form as Elohim then He came into his own Creation as Yahshua the Messiah.
Elohim is seen in Vision and Understood by revelation. He is the WORD or SON.
Yahshua is the Messiah (Holy Spirit) in the Flesh. (HUMAN) He is Yahweh in the FLESH.
Yahweh just steps right on down in His Creation because he made it and walk right around in it.
Then as Yahshua the Messiah Died on the Cross-for our Sins.
Then he raises a Spiritual Body and pours out the Holy Spirit unto Man, Then Went to Heaven. Or back to his Pure Spirit State.
I cut that up because I want to show You its a round trip. Just like that blood that goes though out those Veins which branch off into Y’s. (It a round trip.) Remember What I said, about that That Tabernacle (Outer Court) The Court that when ROUND About. Remember for anything that goes in a Circle it must go Round about in a Circle. You can not get Outside of Yahweh Everything is in Yahweh.
YAHWEH Elohim and Yahshua are One not 3, ONE Spirit and 2 manifestation of that ONE Spirit.
Love in peace in the Only True Creator Yahweh Our Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah.
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January 15, 2009 at 11:12 pm |
Edrina are you kidding me?????………That website says nothing about the BODY being in the form of the “Tabernacle” or “Yahweh”……..
Edrina I said this over and over agin……
“THE TRUTH IS HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT”
That website you have…..what is the name of the system it describes????
The name of the system is called the…..”CIRCULATORY SYSTEM”……Correct?……Hence the word “CIRCLE”……Why is it called the circulatory system???????……..BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS THE CREATOR IN HIS SPIRIT AND PHYSICAL FORM…..
Edrina……..You keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Why the RED BLOOD CELLS that carry life giving “OXYGEN” to the “WHOLE” body are made like a CIRCLE and not a “Y”??????
I gave you websites that will tell you that (“RA”) represents “AIR” or “OXYGEN” in its PUREST FORM………And the “ATOM” which is CIRCULAR represents the “Physical Form”……
Yahweh has nothing to do with the CREATION of ANYTHING in NATURE……
I gave you proof and evidence of the existence of CIVILIZATION Before “Yahweh” was even mere thought….So he can not have been the CREATOR of anything………..
January 16, 2009 at 2:24 am |
So your saying that Your Veins dont branch out into a Y? I guess that another thing you need to rewrite in a Medical Journal. And make sure You tell that they have the inhale and exhale wrong to. Also, tell them that the way we walk is wrong to. Oh yeah tell that I heart doesn’t beat at a 2 count either.
Tell that EXAMINER that draws GREAT LETTER (Y) that is call the Y INCISION. That he is wrong to.
And the go outside your door and look at that tree and Say Tree stop standing in that letter Y with those branches that go out in to a Y and makes sure You say Tree don’t You allow no more leaf to form because it Vein go out in a Y.
And root of Everything that in the ground don’t form that letter Y.
Oh Animal Kingdom You dog and Cat You better not bark or Birds flap those wings. Because they all prasie Yahweh.
Let everything that has breath Praise Yahweh.
January 16, 2009 at 3:33 pm |
Edrina……Its obvious you cant read or you just like taking things out of context…..Where did i say the veins do not branch out to “Look” like a “Y”????
I said the body “DOES NOT” reperesent a “GOD”(Yahweh) that was “NOT” here when the “HUMAN BODY” (Civilization) was here thosusands of years “BEFORE” him (Yahweh)……….
“Yahweh came after the fact…..So how can he be the CREATOR??????
Edrina……Everything that you “SEE”, “Taste and Smell” are made up of “ATOMs”(Atum)…….and the structure of the “ATOM”(RA) is a “CIRCLE” in its “Purest Form”….correct, now then, if that is true….and it is…we can “SAFELY” say that the structure holds “Prevalence” over that which it “Forms”…….
Example: Red Blood Cells are “Circular”…correct? and they hold “Oxygen”…correct? They are “NOT” made in the shape of a “Y”…Hence the term “Sickle Cell Anemia”…..meaning if they are any other shape than the “CREATOR” in his “Purest Form” it will “NOT” hold “Oxygen” then you “DIE”….because “ATOM” (Atum) “RA” is the CREATOR of ALL…….And ALL living THINGS have “Circular Red Blood Cells”…….
Remember the NAMES “Atom, Atum,Amen, Amon and Amun” are one in the same…these names represent the “Physical Form” of (“RA”)…and all the other names of the “DIETIES” are the “ESSENCE” of his “NATURE”..
Edrina if you like you are welcome to come to one of our lectures…..
PEACE
January 16, 2009 at 9:08 pm |
Again the Subject is the Soul and WHATS is the Human a Soul, contain in a body which is a Tabernacle.
The Tabernacle, which pitch in the Wilderness of Sinai, Is the Explanation of Yahweh Our Elohim and Yahshua the Messiah.
I go to Start with Moses again Exodus 25:8 And let them make Me (Yahweh) a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them. 9. According to all that I shew thee after the PATTERN of the TABERNACLE, and the PATTERN of all the instruments thereof, even so shall ye make it.
Hebrew 8; Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have a such an high priest (Yahshua) who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the True Tabernacle, which Yahweh pitched, and not man.
For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man (Yahshua) have somewhat also to offer.
For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
Who serve unto the example [that which is a copy] and shadow of Heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of Yahweh when was about to make the Tabernacle: for See, saith he that thou make all things according to the PATTERN shewed to thee in the mount.
It says in Hebrew that the PATTERN or TABERNACLE is an EXAMPLE or COPY or SHADOW of Heavenly things.
Also, said that the True TABERNACLE that Yahweh pitch and not a man is Yahshua because he is the reality of the physical tabernacle that was pitch in the wilderness of Sinai.
Roman 1:19-20 Because that which may be known of Yahweh is manifest in them; (EveryOne) For Yahweh hath shewed it unto them.
For the INVISIBLE things of HIM (Yahweh) from the creation of the world are CLEARLY seen, being UNDERSTOOD by [perceived through] the things that are MADE, even his eternal power and Supernal nature (Godhead); so that they (EveryOne) are without excuse.
Now there is a way to understand, Yahweh, which Spirit, which is INVISIBLE by the THINGS that are Made. And understand it Clearly or thoroughly.
Now That Tabernacle Pattern is points to Something or Points out something: So what is Point to? It points to Yahweh our Elohim and Yahshua working by a Pattern of Operation. Elohim is the Archetype or Original Pattern of the Universe.
Yahweh says, that he is One Yahweh. Which mean that Yahweh is Elohim and Yahweh is Yahshua. There are No other gods beside him. Just like that Tabernacle it had 3 compartments but it was One tabernacle. Just like all Human have One body and One soul. That’s the Unity of the Spirit. Yahweh is a Unity or One.
Now if Elohim is the Archetype or Original Pattern of the Universe. Or if Yahweh Elohim said, He made man in the likes and the image of Elohim. Should All not just one thing point to that Pattern. And be explained in detail by that Pattern also.
So let example the Atom:
Every Element is made up of an Atom its smallest piece of the element that keeps its chemical properties. It doesn’t CHANGES it chemical properties or what you see in one atom it must be in another atom. It can become bigger or large but the property does not change. Or the manifestation of the changes but the principle of the Atom remains the same. The Atom Has a Proton Neutron and Electron. But the is still One Atom. That Proton and that Neutron are together and the Electron goes Around and about the Neutron in a Circular. In a chemical reaction Atoms are not made, destroyed or changed in any compounds the atom remain the same.
So let just take some of those attributes and characteristic and examine them with Yahweh. Yahweh has chemical Property, which is Spirit. Spirit doesn’t change the Manifestation changes the Principle remain the same. We have Yahweh Elohim and Yahshua there are One Yahweh. NOT MANY GODS OR MANY NAMES. Yahweh can manifest himself as a Cloud Yahweh is not a Cloud but chose a Cloud because, it has ( the Cloud) no particular shape or form. That Cloud was on Mt Sinai and that Cloud was in that Tabernacle. Like I said, the Tabernacle is the explanation of Heavenly things So what in Heaven Yahweh so the Tabernacle Has to show you the ATOM: Remember that Tabernacle had Most Holy Place and Holy Place and a Court that went Round about. It was One Tabernacle with 3 compartments. One Atom with 3 compartments.
The Most Holy Place and the Holy Place was Joined together and cover with goatskin and the Outer Court went around and about and it was open to the element. The Priest could walk around inside the Outer court in a Circle and the 12 Tribes of Israel camp Around and about that Tabernacle. Or How the 12 Apostles went Round about Yahshua who is the second man Adam.
Let examine The Circulatory System and the Pattern together If Everything must go by Yahweh Elohim or the Tabernacle let see if it fit the Pattern. The Circulatory System plump blood it Circulate or goes Round about the body. That blood is RED Why is it Red because it is point to Something Adam mean RED. It just doesn’t stop there remember what I stated about that Prism and How that Prism has Color the First Color is What Red Why is that because the first Human was Adam.
Where still on that Circulatory System it must fit that Tabernacle Pattern Why because Everything goes by that Pattern. The blood Vessel (There that word again Vessel) carries blood though out the body There are only 3 types. We have Arteries (Yahweh or Most Holy Place), Veins (Elohim or Holy Place) and Capillaries (Yahshua or Outer Court).
If you examine the HUMAN BODY you can fine that the Circulatory System is has a branching of TREE it look like it has Roots. Remember what is carried through out the System BLOOD. Now there are 3 types of BLOOD Corpuscle or BRIGHT RED blood Cells, the colorless Corpuscles or White blood Cells and the Platelets are sticky irregularly-shaped colorless bodies that are present in blood also the Platelets goes in action to protect the body has in open cut.
Yahweh said, he is a burning Fire what the color of fire Red. Moses saw Elohim in the body of his Clearness White blood Cell colorless and the Platelets are irregularly-shaped, colorless bodies that are present in blood and that is Yahshua who is the HOLY Spirit.
Let Examine the Platelets the Platelets represent Yahshua in the human body also,
The principal function of platelets is to prevent bleeding or Stop you from bleeding to Death It a clot action taking place. The Platelets are produced from a very large bone marrow (MegaKaryocytes) It undergo a procees of fragmentation. Which mean it just a piece of the MegaKaryocytes. Also, Platelets are shape like a Plate (that Y they call them platelets) and when platelets are stimulated by a break in the blood the blood vessel wall they change shape.
Now Yahshua the Messiah took Death (Sin) upon hisself or Prevent or Stop Sin in the world when he died out there on the Cross. When Yahshua raise from the Dead a quicking Spirit or Spiritual Body it was a Change.
And one More thing what was also in that Tabernacle Exodus 28:36 – “And you shall make a Plate of pure gold, and engrave on it, like the engraving of a signet, ‘Holy to Yahweh.’
And Who else had a Plate Yahshua is the breast PLATE of righteousness and salvation.
Your Body is a Tabernacle and it Points to the Real Tabernacle Whom Yahweh pitch and NOT A Man.
Yahweh Elohim is a Pattern of Everything not something but Everything and Everything will conform to that Pattern.
January 16, 2009 at 10:44 pm |
GEEEEEEZZZZZ……….Edrina
Here is a LINK so you can get a PICTURE of what a “Megakaryocyte” look like………..
PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU SEE ANY THAT ARE SHAPED LIKE A “Y”……..
Platelets are “Spherical” in shape not a perfect circle but “Spherical”…..LOOK AT IT
Edrina……”Yahweh” was not here when CIVILIZATION started……SORRY
January 16, 2009 at 11:00 pm |
Here One More thing about a NAME:
January 16, 2009 at 11:00 pm |
“How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! 13 You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High.’ 15 But you are brought down to Sheol, to the depths of the Pit. 16 Those who see you will stare at you, and ponder over you: ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, 17 who made the world like a desert and overthrew its cities, who did not let his prisoners go home?’ 18 All the kings of the nations lie in glory, each in his own tomb; 19 but you are cast out, away from your sepulchre, like a loathed untimely birth, clothed with the slain, those pierced by the sword, who go down to the stones of the Pit, like a dead body trodden under foot. 20 You will not be joined with them in burial, because you have destroyed your land, you have slain your people. “May the descendants of evildoers nevermore be named! 21
I will be like the Most High: That Fallen Angel The Devil Satan Hades and etc…
Kered says:
1. Remember the NAMES “Atom, Atum,Amen, Amon and Amun” are one in the same…these names represent the “Physical Form” of (”RA”)…and all the other names of the “DIETIES” are the “ESSENCE” of his “NATURE”..
Edrina Answer:
So let See what in thoses Names:
ATOM Origin: from ofr. ATOME from Greek atomos which means ‘indivisible’, based on a-‘not’ + temnein ‘to cut’.
Atum Origin is Egyptian centred on the city Heliopolis. His name is thought to be derived for the word ‘tem’ which means finish.
Amen derives from a Semitic root meaning “Fixed or Sure”.
Amun (Ram) “that means the hidden One. 11th dynasty 2133-2000 bce.
Amon may have originated as a local deity at Khmum in Middle Egypt. A primeval personification of air and breath; worshipped especially at Thebes
Now let Examine the word Ra or Re
RA or RE is the ancient Egyptian sun god.
In later Egyptian dynastic times, Ra was subsumed into the god Horus, as Re-Horakhty (and many variant spellings). He commanded sky, earth, underworld. He was associated with the falcon.
In Norse folklore, a rå is a keeper or warden of a particular location or landform. The different species of rå are sometimes distinguished according to the different spheres of nature with which they were connected, such as huldrå (forest), sjörå (freshwater) or havsrå (saltwater), and bergsrå (mountains). As a group, rå could also be referred to as þokka, a name roughly equivalent to nymph.
Ra is the symbol the chemical element radium. Its APPEARANCE is almost pure white, but it readily oxidizes on exposure to air, turning black.
Let See what Egypt means Kemet or Kmt or Black Land or Dark Place
So lets put all that together and See what we get.
To be a Sure Fixed as A Man that is Hidden Among (Amun or Amon) with the Head of a Ram (there Your Horns) that lives in a Black Land or Dark Place With the gods of Appearance as LIGHT (life) but when exposure to Air (life) turns Black (Death) and will be Finish (Atum) or Complete done Over.
Now that is what I see in a NAME: Everything
This is why Akhenaton but away his father gods.
Akhenaton directed his reforms against the cult of Amon, but with little success, and Amon’s status was restored in the 14th–13th century BC. In the New Kingdom, Amon came to be seen as one of a triad with Ptah and Re, and in the 11th–10th century BC as a universal god who intervened in affairs of state by speaking through oracles.
There can only be One.
Yahweh Elohim Yahshua Mean To be the Almighty (Provider) Savior
Yah means Verb meaning to be
Elohim meaning is Almighty
Yahshua Shua mean Savior
January 16, 2009 at 11:14 pm |
That was text is from Isaiah 14:
Research does mean search the web and just find that One thing but Read and Understand Learn and Comperhend What you seeing what you are reading. Research must be Compared to Other Research.
Again Yahweh goes by a Pattern. A pattern that Has a Funcation and Operation. Just like Your Body.
So please Explain why Your body is 3 Fold.
I already say that Platelets are irregularly-shaped, colorless bodies that are present in blood and that is Yahshua who is the HOLY Spirit. ReRead what I said…
January 17, 2009 at 2:01 am |
well according to the idmr this forum may not be the best idea …the shake the dust off your shoes philosophy …and its starting to sound more like a rant than an uplifting situation but if thats what you all need here …so be it
January 17, 2009 at 7:55 am |
This is a matter of great importance that situations of this nature are approached with some extent of patience and careful consideration for yahweh’s purpose. I was pretty much raised in class, brought up under a man by the name of Aaron Bryant as well as various other deans in the state of Louisiana. And it wasnt till this very moment when the creator of all things…big and small, every concept, opinion and everything named and unnamed, pulled me of the phone and away from my favorite tv show and led me to this website……I was goin joggin with another friend of mines this morning…we are young ladies in our twenties, justa joggin and talkin and she told me that her mother had seen a site like this on the internet and it stirred her up a bit…Well i thought id take the initiative to prove all things and see what was up…..i’ve read just about every post from start to finish…..Most of us know that there are various branch schools thats have fallen astray…..and i say that loosely, because these things are gonna happen….Yahweh controls all these things. He created Time to be an illusion of events that have already occurred…..So, Chill out friends, calm down, neither you nor i can grant anyone the holy spirit. this thing is a gift….a very nondeserving gift if i may add! The thing that is of the most utter and urgent importance is remaining in this spiritual battle awaiting the moment that this holy spirit we speak of is formed in YOU!! dont be distracted by wondering whether or not its in the next fella….thats just a way to get you caught up in the moment and the next thing u know that OLD negative spirit has distracted you from that which u need to recognize, and thats the holy spirit winning this battle IN YOU………….See….he IS going to win. He can not lose. That thought alone should be a comfort, a burden of sorts lifted off of you. Several of you are holding a winning ticket, so to speak, Instead of letting that old thing called vanity cause u to start defending that which needs NO defense, use this time to be thankful. Thankful that it aint YOU lost to chaos…..We have these emotions being a major distraction from the ONE thing that is of utter importance and that is The Holy Spirit IN YOU before it is eternally TOO late…….. Yahweh did NOT create no crappy rootie poot devil…He made this devil to be Smart, informative, subtle, sometimes sweet, handsome, intellectual, well traveled, u name it he is ALLOWED to do it!!! The creator that i worship had to make a devil so doggone perfectly deceptive for his own good pleasure, to excercise his own self!!! What are YOU fighting for him for??!! Humble yourself!! And if u cant u BETTER ask him to do it for you. he is POWER, he ISSSS INTELLIGENCE, he is LOVE, he is PATIENCE…he dont need us fighting for him!! Let the devil do his job he was created to do it and he was created to do it VERY WELL….but only in ignorance…..
You cant win over no souls…u aint the soul collector! Time is short…..And ill say one more thing…dont be worried about it endin 1996, or 2000, whenever u was shakin in ur boots!! Yahweh can end YOUR world RIGHT NOW!!! u fighting for him and u cant even control your own heartbeat, u cant even tell that drunk driver that u dont wanna die tonight so dont come down my street!! WE cant stop a terroist from droppin a bomb on all our behinds RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! WHo do we think we are??……..I’m not mad, im not even talkin to the previous young man or woman who thinks that i may be talkin to him or her……I am speakin to my true brethern in the body of yahshua the messiah out of love…..Use this undeserved grace period to concentrate on ur ownself.
Im just a 27 year old college girl. Who has recognized that to survive any antics of that luciferic spirit, im gonna have to listen to my still small voice, my conscious, which is my creator…my bodyguard, my decision maker…..the one thing that keeps me protected from physical and spiritual danger. That voice is the law that he died on the cross for me to have!!! He is the law and his sons have him as their conscious. When he died the death of an outcast dog it was to fulfill the law! He had to do it…For You…For Me….to be able to then place that law within the confounds of our hearts and our minds so that you and i can render decisions and make the necessary choices……… When i was a kid my mama would say WASH THE DISHES and id say “WHY?? I DID EM LAST NIGHT” and she’d simply reply “cause i said so”….. and that was a type and shadow of how our father deals with us…..SOOOOO for my friend above that asks why do i hold a job, or buy a house, or go to college….i have a simple reply…….because my father said so. Halleluyah
P.s.
I love my brothers and sisters that are not in class i am the youngest of 7 and only us last three were given the divine invitation to attend the institute of divine metaphysical research, ill stand for the ones outside of class just as much as the ones in class, but if any of the ones that aint in class try to distract me from what thus sayth Yahweh THEN THEY GOT TO GO! but i can guarantee u that Yahweh has blesse